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Old 13th August 2007, 02:53 PM
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Thank you for providing more reals.

I will implement HOHOHO in the slotsimulator later today, and I will also check that we actually have the correct reels for Thunderstruck/Tally Ho.

Next one I will do is Loaded. The slot simulator already has it, but I am not sure the reels are correct.

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Next one I will do is Loaded. The slot simulator already has it, but I am not sure the reels are correct.
Uless you really want to do it, dont' bother. Im going through all of the feature slots now and will post the reels during the next hour,

Note, I noticed I already posted the reels - however doing a checkup on me is not only fun for you, but great for everybody; I'm fascinated on how quick this method was!

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And here comes the rest of the mappable flash slots. Alot of clones here, however I mapped all individually just in case.
  • Ladies Nite
  • Skull Duggery
  • Spring Break
  • Reel Thunder
  • Vinyl Countdown
  • SunQuest
  • Carnaval
  • What a Hoot
  • 5 Reel drive
  • Big Top
  • Monster Mania
  • Gophers Gold
  • Crazy Chameleons
  • Oriental Fortune
  • Spectacular

Ladies Nite
0 - Wild
1 - Ladie with discoball
2 - Drink
3 - Perfume
4 - Purse
5 - Lipstick
6 - A
7 - K
8 - Q
9 - J
10 - 10
11 - 9
12 - Scatter

Reel 1: 0,2,11,5,1,2,7,10,9,5,4,6,12,9,8,3,2,1,3,9,10,5,6, 9,8,11,9,8,4,5
Reel 2: 0,11,12,4,2,1,11,9,5,6,7,9,11,4,5,3,9,10,3,9,2,4,3 ,6,9,4,11,7,8,9
Reel 3: 0,2,10,8,1,4,7,10,8,6,10,12,3,1,6,11,10,8,5,6,10,7 ,3,8,4,1,8,10,9,8
Reel 4: 0,4,9,7,11,6,5,1,2,7,8,7,11,10,9,3,7,4,5,11,7,3,12 ,6,2,1,5,6,10,11
Reel 5: 0,3,2,9,8,4,1,2,5,10,6,4,9,1,10,6,8,7,5,3,8,9,3,1, 2,5,7,11,6,10,8,7,2,4,10,3,6,11,9,1,5,12,2,4

Skull Duggery
0 - Skull Duggery
1 - Pirate with red beard
2 - Map with knife
3 - Beer-mug
4 - Sliced orange
5 - Grapes
6 - Orange plums?
7 - Banana
8 - Coconut
9 - Blue pirate with chest (feature)
10 - Scatter
Reel 1: 0,8,2,9,7,1,8,3,6,2,9,5,1,9,7,2,9,5,4,10,6,3,5,9,2 ,8,4,9,1,6,7
Reel 2: 0,7,3,6,2,8,5,1,10,9,7,2,8,3,4,5,9,6,4,2,8,6,3,4,1 ,3,7,9
Reel 3: 0,1,7,2,6,3,8,1,4,10,2,9,5,4,3,6,1,7,8,2,5,6,9,1,7 ,8
Reel 4: 0,2,7,9,8,3,1,2,6,3,10,5,9,4,7,9,6,3,5,8,2,6,5,2,9 ,7,1
Reel 5: 0,7,8,2,3,1,6,3,9,5,4,2,6,8,1,9,7,3,6,9,4,2,8,5,1, 4,5,6,9,1,8,10,3,4,2,5,7,1

Spring Break
0 - Wild, Spring break
1 - Cowboy in red car
2 - Man with beerbottle in pool
3 - Women sunbathing
4 - Yellow, men with bench
5 - Meat on the grill
6 - Easter roll on dish
7 - Hamburger
8 - Pizza slice
9 - Bowl of chips and dip
10 - Beer bottles
11 - Ice cream
12 - Feature, Party Party
Reel 1: 0,2,11,5,1,2,7,10,9,5,4,6,12,9,8,3,2,1,3,9,10,5,6, 9,8,11,9,8,4,5
Reel 2: 0,11,12,4,2,1,11,9,5,6,7,9,11,4,5,3,9,10,3,9,2,4,3 ,6,9,4,11,7,8,9
Reel 3: 0,2,10,8,1,4,7,10,8,6,10,12,3,1,6,11,10,8,5,6,10,7 ,3,8,4,1,8,10,9,8
Reel 4: 0,4,9,7,11,6,5,1,2,7,8,7,11,10,9,3,7,4,5,11,7,3,12 ,6,2,1,5,6,10,11
Reel 5: 0,3,2,9,8,4,1,2,5,10,6,4,9,1,10,6,8,7,5,3,8,9,3,1, 2,5,7,11,6,10,8,7,2,4,10,3,6,11,9,1,5,12,2,4

Reel Thunder
0 - Scatter
1 - Wild (heart with wings)
2 - Pig with helmet, green background
3 - Motorbike wheel
4 - Biker siluette with orange flaming background
5 - Cruisin plate
6 - Speedometer
7 - Road House beer
8 - Flaming pepper on cracker
9 - Hotdog
10 - Hotdog
11 - Eggs and Bacon
12 - Plate with pancakes
Reel 1: 3,10,2,0,12,5,9,7,8,6,11,4
Reel 2: 5,8,3,2,11,12,1,4,7,9,6,0
Reel 3: 2,9,4,8,6,0,1,7,5,11,3,12
Reel 4: 4,7,3,0,5,2,12,6,9,1,11,8
Reel 5: 4,5,11,2,8,3,9,7,12,0,10,6

Vinyl Countdown
0 - Scatter
1 - Wild
2 - Vinyl Countdown
3 - Man with funky hair and music
4 - Girl with hearts
5 - heart with dancing siluette
6 - Shoes
7 - Banana split
8 - Icecream in glass
9 - Waffle with ice
10 - Waffle with ice
11 - Brown pudding with chocolate topping and cherry
12 - Chocolate flavour drink with straw
Reel 1: 3,10,2,0,12,5,9,7,8,6,11,4
Reel 2: 5,8,3,2,11,12,1,4,7,9,6,0
Reel 3: 2,9,4,8,6,0,1,7,5,11,3,12
Reel 4: 4,7,3,0,5,2,12,6,9,1,11,8
Reel 5: 4,5,11,2,8,3,9,7,12,0,10,6

SunQuest
0 - Scatter
1 - Wild
2 - Gold emblem, S
3 - diamond
4 - 7
5 - Bell
6 - Bar
7 - orange
8 - water melon
9 - lemon
10 - lemon
11 - Strawberries
12 - ..two redish plums
Reel 1: 3,10,2,0,12,5,9,7,8,6,11,4
Reel 2: 5,8,3,2,11,12,1,4,7,9,6,0
Reel 3: 2,9,4,8,6,0,1,7,5,11,3,12
Reel 4: 4,7,3,0,5,2,12,6,9,1,11,8
Reel 5: 4,5,11,2,8,3,9,7,12,0,10,6

Carnaval
0 - Scatter
1 - Wild
2 - Carnaval symbol
3 - Woman with carnival thingie on head
4 - Clown
5 - Brown banner
6 - Trumpet
7 - A
8 - K
9 - Q
10 - Q
11 - J
12 - 10
Reel 1: 3,10,2,0,12,5,9,7,8,6,11,4
Reel 2: 5,8,3,2,11,12,1,4,7,9,6,0
Reel 3: 2,9,4,8,6,0,1,7,5,11,3,12
Reel 4: 4,7,3,0,5,2,12,6,9,1,11,8
Reel 5: 4,5,11,2,8,3,9,7,12,0,10,6

What a Hoot
0 - Scatter
1 - Wild
2 - What a Hoot
3 - Red owl
4 - Yellow owl
5 - Blue owl
6 - Silver owl
7 - Berries
8 - Red berry
9 - Nuts (roundish, spikes)
10 - Nuts (roundish, spikes)
11 - Sunflower seeds
12 - Nuts (longish)
Reel 1: 3,10,2,0,12,5,9,7,8,6,11,4
Reel 2: 5,8,3,2,11,12,1,4,7,9,6,0
Reel 3: 2,9,4,8,6,0,1,7,5,11,3,12
Reel 4: 4,7,3,0,5,2,12,6,9,1,11,8
Reel 5: 4,5,11,2,8,3,9,7,12,0,10,6

5 Reel drive
0 - Scatter
1 - Wild
2 - Burning wheel with start flag
3 - Red man with truck
4 - Yellow man with car
5 - Pink lady with car
6 - Dices
7 - Hamburger
8 - French fries
9 - bottle and cup
10 - bottle and cup
11 - Pie slice
12 - Cup of coffe
Reel 1: 3,10,2,0,12,5,9,7,8,6,11,4
Reel 2: 5,8,3,2,11,12,1,4,7,9,6,0
Reel 3: 2,9,4,8,6,0,1,7,5,11,3,12
Reel 4: 4,7,3,0,5,2,12,6,9,1,11,8
Reel 5: 4,5,11,2,8,3,9,7,12,0,10,6

Big Top
0 - Scatter
1 - Wild
2 - Big Top
3 - Leon
4 - Clown
5 - Elephant
6 - Seal
7 - A
8 - K
9 - Q
10 - Q
11 - J
12 - 10
Reel 1: 3,10,2,0,12,5,9,7,8,6,11,4
Reel 1: 5,8,3,2,11,12,1,4,7,9,6,0
Reel 1: 2,9,4,8,6,0,1,7,5,11,3,12
Reel 1: 4,7,3,0,5,2,12,6,9,1,11,8
Reel 1: 4,5,11,2,8,3,9,7,12,0,10,6

Monster Mania
0 - Scatter
1 - Wild
2 - Green Monster
3 - orange/blue monster with spikes
4 - Blue monster
5 - Alien eye
6 - Snake
7 - Apple
8 - Orange
9 - Water melon
10 - Water melon
11 - Grapes
12 - Banana
Reel 1: 3,10,2,0,12,5,9,7,8,6,11,4
Reel 2: 5,8,3,2,11,12,1,4,7,9,6,0
Reel 3: 2,9,4,8,6,0,1,7,5,11,3,12
Reel 4: 4,7,3,0,5,2,12,6,9,1,11,8
Reel 5: 4,5,11,2,8,3,9,7,12,0,10,6

Gophers Gold
0 - Gophers Gold
1 - Wild
2 - Dynamite exploding
3 - Bag of gold and "thingie" to hack with
4 - Mining cart with gold
5 - Lamp
6 - A
7 - K
8 - Q
9 - J
10 - 10
Reel 1: 1,2,8,3,4,0,10,5,7,9,6
Reel 2: 4,3,2,8,10,0,9,5,1,7,6
Reel 3: 7,10,4,1,3,0,8,9,2,5,6
Reel 4: 9,5,7,10,2,0,4,1,8,3,6
Reel 5: 2,1,3,9,7,0,10,8,4,5,6

Crazy Chameleons
0 - Bird
1 - Surf boards
2 - K
3 - J
4 - Trousers
5 - Wild
6 - Chameleon
7 - Q
8 - Sun
9 - 10
Reel 1: 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9
Reel 2: 2,0,9,1,3,5,8,6,4,7
Reel 3: 3,8,2,9,7,5,0,4,6,1
Reel 4: 6,4,7,0,8,5,9,1,3,2
Reel 5: 1,6,3,4,9,5,2,7,8,0

Oriental Fortune
0 - Dragon
1 - Blue house
2 - K
3 - J
4 - Fish
5 - Lady
6 - Oriental Fortune
7 - Q
8 - Golden Statue
9 - 10
Reel 1: 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9
Reel 2: 2,0,9,1,3,5,8,6,4,7
Reel 3: 3,8,2,9,7,5,0,4,6,1
Reel 4: 6,4,7,0,8,5,9,1,3,2
Reel 5: 1,6,3,4,9,5,2,7,8,0

Spectacular
0 - Spectacular
1 - EMPTY
2 - 7
3 - EMPTY
4 - bar x 3
5 - bar x 3
6 - EMPTY
7 - bar x 2
8 - EMPTY
9 - bar x 1
10 - EMPTY
11 - Admit one ticket
12 - EMPTY
13 - SPIN
Reel 1: 0,1,2,3,4,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,5,14
Reel 2: 0,1,2,3,4,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,5,14
Reel 3: 0,1,2,3,4,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14
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Can someone map Golden-Goose Totem Treasure please ? I really like this slot.
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5 Reel drive
0 - Scatter
1 - Wild
2 - Burning wheel with start flag
3 - Red man with truck
4 - Yellow man with car
5 - Pink lady with car
6 - Dices
7 - Hamburger
8 - French fries
9 - bottle and cup
10 - bottle and cup
11 - Pie slice
12 - Cup of coffe
Reel 1: 3,10,2,0,12,5,9,7,8,6,11,4
Reel 2: 5,8,3,2,11,12,1,4,7,9,6,0
Reel 3: 2,9,4,8,6,0,1,7,5,11,3,12
Reel 4: 4,7,3,0,5,2,12,6,9,1,11,8
Reel 5: 4,5,11,2,8,3,9,7,12,0,10,6
It's also interesting that in case of slots like that, it is possible to calculate the payout exactly, not just via simulations, because the number of possible combinations are not so high (248832 in case of 5 reel drive).

I made some quick calculations, and the results really amazed me if I'm correct and the above reels are correct:
Whatever the return percentage of this slot is, 78.125%point comes from scatter wins. Am I correct in the below calculations?
P(Exactly 3 scatters)=BINOMDIST(3;5;1/4;FALSE)=0.087890625
P(Exactly 4 scatters)=BINOMDIST(4;5;1/4;FALSE)=0.014648438
P(Exactly 5 scatters)=BINOMDIST(5;5;1/4;FALSE)=0.000976563

Win (3 scatters) = 0.087890625 * 5 = 0.439453125
Win (4 scatters) = 0.014648438 * 20 = 0.29296875
Win (5 scatters) = 0.000976563 * 50 = 0.048828125
Sum = 0.78125

So if we assume that the overall payback is 95%, than 82.2% of the total payback would come from scatter wins...
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I worked a few hours on the new slot reels tonight.

And I have implemented HOHOHO. The results are:

Seconds running:133.3
Number of iterations:35741888
Total cost:35741888
Total added wins:22231780
Number of feature starts:380754
Base payback(no free spins):0.622009111550011
Probability for getting a feature each spin:0.010652878773499599~1/94
Average number of spins each feature with retriggers (calculated):25.414819911310232
Average number of win each feature(in bet size):31.616499106475217
Total payout (excact!)= 0.95881584377375~ 95.88%


Quite impressive the payout actually is in the 95-96% range, which makes me believe we got it

I have a small problem with tomb raider. The slot simulator multiplies all wins
during the free spins and ALSO those from the bonus picking game. It will take some time before I can fix this unfortunately. I will work on more slots tomorrow, those that I know will work on the slot analyzer and then I will upload the new slot analyzer applet.

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In the case of the 5-reel 5-liners such as Winning Wizards, I am 99% certain that the reels are weighted like 3-reel slots are.

Some time in the past I used the imperfect method of analyzing the reels, and came to the conclusion that every symbol appears only once on each reel.

Therefore it would make sense that the reel stops are weighted.

From 100 spins (I know, small sample, hardly enough, blah blah blah) I obtained the following results (the symbol in each list refers to the symbol appearing on the top line):

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The reason I decided to log this (about 6 months ago) was because when I was playing I kept noticing the King appearing on the bottom of the first reel very frequently (that's the stop where the Ten appears on the top of the first reel which happened on 16% of the spins in the above session).

If the reels weren't weighted, each symbol and lineup would have an equal chance of showing up because each symbol appears only once on each reel. Obviously it wouldn't make sense that five 10s has the same probability as five Wizards, so weighting is likely occurring. Plus this is one of the oldest MG video slots so it wouldn't surprise me if it was weighted like the 3-reelers since most of the slots back then were 3-reelers.
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Spectacular
0 - Spectacular
1 - EMPTY
2 - 7
3 - EMPTY
4 - bar x 3
5 - bar x 3
6 - EMPTY
7 - bar x 2
8 - EMPTY
9 - bar x 1
10 - EMPTY
11 - Admit one ticket
12 - EMPTY
13 - SPIN
Reel 1: 0,1,2,3,4,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,5,14
Reel 2: 0,1,2,3,4,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,5,14
Reel 3: 0,1,2,3,4,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14
What's symbol 14?
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Plus this is one of the oldest MG video slots so it wouldn't surprise me if it was weighted like the 3-reelers since most of the slots back then were 3-reelers.
We can probably see that when I have entered it into the analyzer. It the payout% is unrealistic, I trust you.

Btw. it seems all 5-reel slots at Boss software also are not uniformly random.
Even the 3-reel slots seems not even be be standard weigthed. Here you get
2 jackpot symbols way to often and amoung all 3 reels. So the payout is
not determined from the reels, but by other means. And then the reels just
show a win at the given amount. I am 95% certain this is the way it is, which is a shame since it is deceptive and ruins the whole idea of slots with reels.
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We can probably see that when I have entered it into the analyzer. It the payout% is unrealistic, I trust you.
Don't forget that this game pays left-to-right and right-to-left... I think you can just double the payout for all wins except five of a kind? It might be more complicated than that.

Winning Wizards, Oriental Fortune and "classic" Crazy Chameleons are all the same game.
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