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Old 12th August 2007, 07:41 AM
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LOL

Your a bunch of sadists!!! LMAO

If I wasnt so tired, I wouldnt mind. Maybe after a good nights sleep, Ill do it again tomorrow just to see if it was a fluke

Ummmm......Are there any MG lovers that would like to step up to the plate or do I need to do MG as well instead of doing RTG twice or perhaps, instead of regular slots, do Video Poker
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I think by now if you wanted to see a pattern, you would see it by, Im just too tired to keep going. Ill let you know how long the rest of this $18 lasted.

I only did this becase Pinababy wanted to see if someone wouild do it. Like I said before, I got real lucky or someone from RTG saw this and wanted to loolk good LOL

Well, atleast I proved that $20 CAN stretch sometimes at an RTG casino and here is the proof in black and white. Plus I made $200 to boot!!

Have a great night everyone
You done good Babs. A lot of hard work and I, for one. do appreciate it.
Here's what I learned; it's hard to present numbers in way that everyone can understand.
It's hard to tell your patterns from the casino's patterns (neither one exist because they are semi-rng and you throw in chaos- good job)
It's damn hard to explain how to win on RTg softare ( I think they are changing it as we speak)

You know and I know there is way to - on the past or current software to play low bets witha 'gut feeling' and increase them now and then... sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

I do appreciate it. But RTG bonus slots were too predictable (challenge me to goldbeard ) and they are being revamped with an artificial intelligence engine (only explanation )

I still call for a community audit of all games and a Meisterly conclusion in toto. I'm good with 75% no bonus guaranteed. Anyone who gambles with more expectations better know when to quit.
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Your a bunch of sadists!!! LMAO

If I wasnt so tired, I wouldnt mind. Maybe after a good nights sleep, Ill do it again tomorrow just to see if it was a fluke

Ummmm......Are there any MG lovers that would like to step up to the plate or do I need to do MG as well instead of doing RTG twice or perhaps, instead of regular slots, do Video Poker
Save your money, you've done good work.

But sure, I'll go head to head on any platform; play or real, slots only
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Okay guys, sorry for the lack of response on my part until now - it was a very busy weekend for me.

To accurately determine the payback of a session, only three pieces of data are needed: starting balance, total amount wagered, and ending balance.

But it would be better to make it a little more detailed, by providing the Game, Starting Balance, Bet Size, Number of Games Played, and Ending Balance.

Add a new record (line of data) for each game you play, and keep creating new records whenever you change the game or bet size. It might be helpful to keep a separate column to keep notes on any features you might have hit along the way (and how much you won from them).

For example:

Game ...... Start Balance .... Bet Size ... Number of Games ... Ending Balance ... Features
Green Light 100.00 ........... 0.40 ....... 100 ............... 88.42 ............ None
Ronin ..... 88.42 ............ 0.40 ....... 100 ............... 112.34 ........... Spin 27: $27.96


The formula for determining your payback (return) percentage is:

(Ending Balance + Total Amount Wagered - Starting Balance), divided by Total Amount Wagered

For example, using the above records we would get:
Green Light: $88.42 + $40 - $100 = $28.42, divided by $40 = 0.7105 = 71.05% return
Ronin: $112.34 + $40 - $88.42 = $63.92, divided by $40 = 1.598 = 159.80% return

You can leave the math part to me. Just use the attached document by adding your results underneath the header line (please use spaces to fill the gaps to make the data line up). Save it on your computer and then attach the document in a post here. I would ask that you start over with each new deposit, but however you go about it I can figure it out.

And please, please, please .... no tainting the data!! Thanks to all who wish to accept this challenge! And it doesn't have to be restricted to MG or RTG - let's see whose slots pay out the most. Make sure when you post your data that you specify the software type. Don't just say "100 spins on Tally Ho and I was broke" because now there are two Tally Ho's on different brands of software. Thanks in advance!!!!
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I'll do this, i'm not as good as you in text formating so i'll just post my result as is. I just made a deposit of 50$ on 32red, will edit my post all day long (until i go broke).

Here goes :

Thundertruck......Starting Balance : 50.00....Bet size : 0.45....Numbers of games : 50....End Balance : 50.22....Feature : None....Payout Percentage : 101%

Isis...Starting Balance : 50.22....Bet size : 0.50....Numbers of games : 50....End Balance : 31.58....Feature : None....Payout Percentage : 25.4%

Ladies Night....Starting Balance : 31.58....Bet size : 0.45....Numbers of games : 50....End Balance : 27.83....Feature : None....Payout Percentage : 83.3%

Thunderstruck....Starting Balance : 27.83....Bet size : 0.45....Numbers of games : 50....End Balance : 14.13....Feature : None....Payout Percentage : 39.1%

Harveys....Starting Balance : 14.13....Bet size : 0.25....Numbers of games : 50....End Balance : 9.02....Feature : None....Payout Percentage : 59.1%

Thunderstruck....Starting Balance : 9.02....Bet size : 0.27....Numbers of games : 50....End Balance : 13.88....Feature : None....Payout Percentage : 136%

Thunderstruck....Starting Balance : 13.88....Bet size : 0.36....Numbers of games : 50....End Balance : 7.36....Feature : None....Payout Percentage : 63.7%

Loaded....Starting Balance : 7.36....Bet size : 0.25....Numbers of games : 50....End Balance : 8.21....Feature : 22nd spin 8.77.....Payout Percentage : 107%

Thunderstruck...Starting Balance : 8.21....Bet size : 0.27....Numbers of games : 50....End Balance : 4.34....Feature : None....Payout Percentage : 71.3%

Totem Treasure...Starting Balance : 4.34....Bet size : 0.25....Numbers of games : 50....End Balance : 5.74....Feature : 2 total 4.67....Payout Percentage : 111.2%

Thunderstruck....Starting Balance : 5.74....Bet size : 0.27....Numbers of games : 50....End Balance : 4.63....Feature : 14th spin 7.11....Payout Percentage : 91.7%

Thunderstruck...Starting Balance : 4.63....Bet size : 0.27....Numbers of games : 50....End Balance : 32.38....Feature : 18th and 36th 30.57 total....Payout Percentage : 305.5%

Thunderstruck....Starting Balance : 32.38....Bet size : 0.27....Numbers of games : 50....End Balance : 26.98....Feature : None....Payout Percentage : 60%

Ladies Nite....Starting Balance : 26.98....Bet size : 0.27....Numbers of games : 50....End Balance : 20.68....Feature : None....Payout Percentage : 53.3%

Summertime....Starting Balance : 20.68....Bet size : 0.27....Numbers of games : 50....End Balance : 14.26....Feature : None....Payout Percentage : 52.4%

Thunderstruck....Starting Balance : 14.26....Bet size : 0.27....Numbers of games : 50....End Balance : 6.46....Feature : None....Payout Percentage : 42.2%

God i'm really paying for that 300% payout eh !

Supe it up....Starting Balance : 6.46....Bet size : 0.20....Numbers of games : 50....End Balance : 10.27....Feature : 42th spin 9.04....Payout Percentage : 138.1%

Thunderstruck....Starting Balance : 10.27....Bet size : 0.27....Numbers of games : 50....End Balance : 5.89....Feature : 24th spin 4.86....Payout Percentage : 67.5%

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For example, using the above records we would get:
Green Light: $88.42 + $40 - $100 = $28.42, divided by $40 = 0.7105 = 71.05% return
Ronin: $112.34 + $40 - $88.42 = $63.92, divided by $40 = 1.598 = 159.80% return

You can leave the math part to me.
I think most would leave that math to you!

I understand what you've done there, and it is correct, but some might find it simpler to work out this way:-

Amount lost (or won) / Amount wagered.
Multiply result by 100 to get the % lost (or won).

Using your Green Light figures:
(Lost) $11.58 / $40 (wagered) = 0.2895. x100 = 28.95% lost.
Take that off 100% to get return: 100% - 28.95% = 71.05%

If you won $11.58 rather than losing it, then just add the resulting % to 100%
In this case the return would be 128.95%


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I also appreciate your efforts Babs - very well done!

Also to add; I know I've posted this before, but here's a reminder of how I record my wagering at ALL casinos (except Crypto's) using Excel.

I added in the "Return" column especially for this post - the calculation in the return cell is simply:
=1+(H14/E14) - with the cell formated to %.

Had a nice time at RTG yesterday!
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I hit the edit time limit on my previous post, anyway i went broke right after that last series, after 42th spins of TS.

I noticed that my luck went down the drain after that 300% payout. I got lucky at least 3 times before that when i almost broke, was down to less than 1$ and managed to hit the feature. In conclusion, i've seen better session.
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Your a bunch of sadists!!! LMAO

If I wasnt so tired, I wouldnt mind. Maybe after a good nights sleep, Ill do it again tomorrow just to see if it was a fluke

Ummmm......Are there any MG lovers that would like to step up to the plate or do I need to do MG as well instead of doing RTG twice or perhaps, instead of regular slots, do Video Poker
great work babs
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This is why I like Microgaming. Intertops gave me a $10 no-deposit bonus. In alphabetical order, here are all the games I was able to play before busting out a few hours later:

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The day that I can squeeze nearly $6,000 in wagers out of $10 at an RTG casino will be the day that I agree that RTG is as good as MG.
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The thing is

I was just doing slots. half of your money was won playing BJ, not MG slots. I bet if you just played slots with that $10 you would not be near $6K. I dont mean any disrespect but just making an observation

BTW....nice win!!!!
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