RTG's new Green Light game...

**SlotsWizard** · 28th July 2007, 12:46 AM

...sucks!

I played a few spins in free mode when the game was first released, and I was under the impression that all of the lights turned the same color (50/50). It turns out (as I'm sure many of you know by now) that each light turns red or green individually.

To get paid for 2 or more scatters you need to get 2 or more green lights. To get the feature you need 3 or more green lights.

The help screen doesn't clarify whether or not the number of scatters you are paid for is the number of green lights you have - for example, if you get 5 scatters but only 2 have green lights, are you paid for 2 or 5 scatters? I assume you are paid for the total number of scatters as long as you have 2 or more green lights, and that is what my analysis below represents.

I gave RTG the benefit of the doubt that each light has a 50% chance of being either Red or Green (although based on my small sample I would say that each light has a greater-than-50% chance of being Red). But let's assume it's 50/50. The following table represents the chances of winning/losing the scatter payouts (2+ green lights) and getting/not getting the feature (3+ green lights) for each number of scatters:

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So the best you can hope for is a 50% chance of getting the feature... when you get all 5 scatters!

Anything less than 5 scatters and your odds decrease, of both getting a scatter payout and getting the feature.

Combine these odds with the odds of getting 3 or more scatters in the first place and it's truly horrific. And if my hunch that each light has a greater chance of being Red than Green is correct, then it's even worse.

Imagine getting 5 scatters and 4 of them are Red: you win absolutely nothing and you get no feature.

What a fantastic game for the casinos!

**jenn1381** · 28th July 2007, 01:43 AM

Agreed, I absolutely hate this game and I cannot believe someone came up with the concept! If I get 3 scatters I want a feature, damnit! The other day I got FOUR scatters, and nadda! 2 turned red and 2 turned green. Nothing like a game that does nothing but piss you off, huh? Yeah, that's something *I* wanna play again.. like life doesn't piss me off enough! lol

**cynthial** · 28th July 2007, 01:59 AM

It sounds as bad as that last crappy new one where there are question marks that you have to wait forever for to find out you won nothing.

Good then I am not really missing anything.

**mikepipe** · 28th July 2007, 02:10 AM

i agree 100%. Maybe i am the only one, who had a feature once..
(winners screenshots) with 5 scatters.
Wont touch it again.

**babs7262** · 28th July 2007, 02:48 AM

you would feel the same way as I did after trying those stupid games. I actuallly lasted a good bit of time playing the penquin at Las Vegas USA, I was surprised at all the bonus spins I got

**lovetogamble** · 28th July 2007, 03:28 AM

Combine these odds with the odds of getting 3 or more scatters in the first place and it's truly horrific. And if my hunch that each light has a greater chance of being Red than Green is correct, then it's even worse.

Imagine getting 5 scatters and 4 of them are Red: you win absolutely nothing and you get no feature.

What a fantastic game for the casinos!

AGREE!!!

Must be one of the worst game they have! I'm not fond of "Tally Ho" either. It has very boring graphics and I haven't hit a feature on it or "Green Light." However I do like the "Incan Goddess". The only one of the three I like and will play. I don't know who comes up with some of these grahic designs but some games are just plain boring to start with due to the graphics.

**kwblue** · 28th July 2007, 04:11 AM

It seemed to me that you get the bonus a little less often than the rest of the slots there... The problem is this: The game makes you THINK you might get the bonus a lot more often........ which really just pisses you off and makes you FEEL like you will never get it.

I have gotten the bonus round several times and got NOTHING for it.

I don't like Tally Ho either and the only of the 3 I like is Incan Goddess now

**Simmo!** · 28th July 2007, 09:52 AM

I agree that it is frustrating. However it is a similar concept to Aladdin's Wishes to a degree in that the bonus doesn't guarantee free spins, and I like the latter.

Also two other things to bear in mind: firstly I would imagine that the % payout is the same as the other Real Series slots, even if the variance differs, and secondly when you get the bonus, if your car finishes first or second (for 20 or 25 spins) which has happened a few times while I have been testing it, you get a second race where you can get a decent kicker of up to 100x - again I have had 100x and 50x from this.

I think it's just a slightly higher variance than other slots personally. But all that said, the frustration factor of not getting 3 green lights is offputting.

**vinylweatherman** · 28th July 2007, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by Simmo!

I agree that it is frustrating. However it is a similar concept to Aladdin's Wishes to a degree in that the bonus doesn't guarantee free spins, and I like the latter.

Also two other things to bear in mind: firstly I would imagine that the % payout is the same as the other Real Series slots, even if the variance differs, and secondly when you get the bonus, if your car finishes first or second (for 20 or 25 spins) which has happened a few times while I have been testing it, you get a second race where you can get a decent kicker of up to 100x - again I have had 100x and 50x from this.

I think it's just a slightly higher variance than other slots personally. But all that said, the frustration factor of not getting 3 green lights is offputting.

Maybe, but hitting the 25 free spins on Ronin often gives F*** all, and it looks like it is VERY hard to get this in Green Light, as you can get a mere 5 free games and no "kicker" race despite struggling for ages for three green lights.
I played this at Club World, and although I hit three lights more often than on other games (3 scatters), I never once managed more than 2 Green lights, and never ONCE managed 4 lights, let alone all 5 (which can still pay nothing).

Of course, this might be an indication of lowered payouts, and perhaps if set higher, the lights come in far more often. The bonus rounds may also be weighted to offer better bonuses than would be obtained by chance once you manage to get the 3 green lights.

**Zoozie** · 28th July 2007, 11:26 AM

"Incan Goddess" was also my favorite. "Tally Ho" just sucked my money, 500 spins with no feature.

I did manage to hit the feature on "Green lights" twice in 300 spins and a good thing about the feature is combining the freespin + pick a *bet-size win.
Actually this was also implemented in the MG release last month "Lucky Stars".
So I like the feature, but agree it is frustating to get 3-4 scatters several times and no freespins.

Zoozie