Casino Promotion and Gambling Addiction

[NASHVEGAS]

I am not sure what this explains to me.
I simply stated that I doubt that many people who play for real do not care if they win or lose.
If there is no risk/reward element then there is no satisfaction for a gambler.
Or to put it another way, if the outcome is unimportant then you are not "gambling" (which can be defined as a risk taking device).
I have read about dopamine and its relevance to addiction somewhere else but I must say that I do not believe it is responsible for our sex drives or appertites among other things.
After all a man has no sex drive when castrated which suggest testosterone is much more important here and does a cow get a dopamine release from endlessly chewing grass? again I think there are other hormones at work here.
I think you can even attribute the urge to gamble to many other things(sometimes it can be a symptom of depression), dopamine release/pleasure is just one of them.
Nice to have a scientific disscusion though

With no intent of casting stones, it is best that I not rebut any inaccuracy (among other issues) in your post with medical science for I am not a doctor,scientist or interventionist. If one wants to understand addiction and the physiology of the brain, there is a multitude of medical publishings. If one wants to deny and rewrite medical science they have that right......that being said, and to tie into the OP's post, casino marketing certainly understands the medical science, it is not only math. as has been pointed out many times in this forum that is building $7 billion casino mega resorts like the new MGM project..............off the subject but back to dopamine, remember those tobacco companies and that nicotine is not addictive. Quite the contrary as nicotine has been labeled the most of addictive of all and nicotine triggers dopamine release in the pleasure center of the brain in approx. 7 seconds but that is a different issue............One more 7 in this post and I would have 21 in pontoon, I guess...........not interested in a pissing contest so I will drop this subject and wish all the best.......thanks.

[tennis_balls]

I have read about dopamine and its relevance to addiction somewhere else but I must say that I do not believe it is responsible for our sex drives or appertites among other things.

i remembered reading about some problems with parkinson's drugs and gambling: http://www.webmd.com/parkinsons-dise...ed-to-gambling

[jetset]

There are also several research studies - most recently a global survey last year by the University of Nottingham Trent commissioned by eCOGRA, and I think another one commissioned by the DCMS - that speak to the attraction of entertainment and pleasure over necessity to win.

Whilst the thought of "entertainment" is anathema to many experienced gamblers, this nevertheless has surfaced enough times to bear consideration.

[Simmo!]

I got the same damn email,

I got it also guys

Mine was from Jackpot City. If yours was too, look closely at the site name in the URL posted in the email. A small but interesting (?) amendment to the URL instead of jackpotcity.com, it points to jackpotscity.com - that made me a bit suspicious but then I figured if they knew my account number, it had to be them.

[Slotster!]

Mine was from Jackpot City. If yours was too, look closely at the site name in the URL posted in the email. A small but interesting (?) amendment to the URL instead of jackpotcity.com, it points to jackpotscity.com - that made me a bit suspicious but then I figured if they knew my account number, it had to be them.

Yeah, I've noticed Belle Rock seem to have a load of crazy/different URL's for promos/emails etc... I'm sure there's some method in their madness... Probably something to do with avoiding the popular spam filters etc.

[Rusty]

With no intent of casting stones, it is best that I not rebut any inaccuracy (among other issues) in your post with medical science for I am not a doctor,scientist or interventionist. If one wants to understand addiction and the physiology of the brain, there is a multitude of medical publishings. If one wants to deny and rewrite medical science they have that right......that being said, and to tie into the OP's post, casino marketing certainly understands the medical science, it is not only math. as has been pointed out many times in this forum that is building $7 billion casino mega resorts like the new MGM project..............off the subject but back to dopamine, remember those tobacco companies and that nicotine is not addictive. Quite the contrary as nicotine has been labeled the most of addictive of all and nicotine triggers dopamine release in the pleasure center of the brain in approx. 7 seconds but that is a different issue............One more 7 in this post and I would have 21 in pontoon, I guess...........not interested in a pissing contest so I will drop this subject and wish all the best.......thanks.

Hmmm still not sure where we are in dissagreement but hey whatever.
I believe I know a good rubber pants shop though if you are interested.

[NASHVEGAS]

J / K ! I am probably banned.

[NASHVEGAS]

Hmmm still not sure where we are in dissagreement but hey whatever.
I believe I know a good rubber pants shop though if you are interested.

LOL, I let u know next time I'm in a pissing contest.

[dominique]

at the risk of being poo-pooed -

I think you would be surprised at the number of "entertainment" gamblers. And indeed the Springbreak ad is aimed at them.

Many people don't play consistently or seriously, and they don't know all that many of the games.

Just the fact that we are interested enough to all post here and read all about it means gambling has some importance in our lives. There are many people who gamble online who would be bored at the forums, it simply doesn't carry enough interest for them. For them, reading about gambling carries about the importance of looking up a recipe for stuffed pork chops. It's a point of interest at some time, so they may look up a game strategy some place, and that's that.

There is a considerable number of people who gamble like they might buy an ice cream cone at a fair. They surf an hour a day or so, and maybe once every couple of weeks they might play for a half hour. The rest of the time they spend on the rest of the thousands of things you can do online.

Don't underestimate the number of these, they support the thousand or so portals that make some money online.

For these gamblers the springbreak slot may be a new flavor ice cream that may entice, or it may be something they did play a year ago or so and enjoyed.

You may say that they are not gamblers, and if you strictly define the word, they are not. They just like to play casino games sometimes, and don't mind paying for it. The possibility of winning makes it more exciting.

Look at the thousands of Pogo players. They love playing the games, and the prizes (and a 10,000 pot is not half bad) add some excitement, even though the odds of winning are very slim. They pay membership fees and play for years, some regularly, some occasionally. It's just a fun pass time.

Since these players are not part of our community, we don't much hear from them here. I hear from them at G&C with some regularity, usually asking how a specific game works or if the download is going to hurt their computer or such queries.

These players do play a big part in the industry, they are like the walk-by traffic for a B&M store. The B&M store serves serious repeat customers as the backbone of the business, but if in a good location will make more money from the folks that stop in for a bottle of water and an energy bar.

They are unfortunately also who supports the rogues. They will pick a casino on impulse. If the experience is bad, you won't find them spending the time to find out how to recover their money or how to avoid the problem in future, they just won't play again and tell everyone they know that online gambling is a sham.

But the vast majority of recreational players just finds a place they like and after a couple of years they may have tried out many of the slots, or they may simply play one or two because they find the selection intimidating.

It's these folks who like ads like the springbreak slot.

So, I guess maybe there is a difference between a "gambler" and a "player".

[liquidsoap]

Not so sure if that can be true.
After all if you do'nt care if you win or lose what is the point of playing for money?
You might as well play in fun mode.
but certainly some people take losing better than others but then again perhaps they also win occasionaly which certainly helps.

I once that that too, but now if I lose it doesnt really matter.
I have the money to play, if I lose it doesnt affect my finicail situation, if I win thats excellent.
I used to get really mad when I played poker, used to throw crap all over the place. But now either I matured or I wisened up.
If people get really mad at gambling (unless they play for living) they should not be playing. Losing is expected, nobody except KK or anyone who hit a big jackpot will ever beat a -EV game over time.