insider's tips - for non US players

[jerrylee]

Never? Well that's a bit of a sweeping statement isn't it?
Why don't you PM Bryan & ask him just how many PAB's he get from players trying to pull stunts just like this?

KasinoKing's right on the money here.
Imagine this. You're a new player. You find a great bonus offer. You love slots. You see a progressive jackpot.. the lights and sounds (online, anyway) dazzle you. You drop $300. You lose. Your spouse checks your credit card statement. He/She flips out. He/She rants and raves. How could you waste $300 on online gambling????
You contact casino support. You try to BS them saying you never created the account. You never authorized the charge. Someone hacked your PC. You're not responsible.
The casino asks you to back up your claim. Desperate, you doctor some kind of proof. The casino auditors analyze your claim and the "proof" you sent. They reject it. You're out $300.

Now are you (not KasinoKing) telling me that an inexperienced/new player wouldn't dare attempt this, when in fact they regretted depositing the $300 in the first place? Oh no, the big bad casino rejected a player's fraud claim. Who's to blame now?

[jerrylee]

Microgaming casinos do not allow the same credit/debit card to be registered to different accounts. Each card is only allowed to be registered once per casino. Found this out when I screwed the pooch on my expiration date and had to have CS delete the whole card.

Someone was thinking at MG when they created that policy, nice work.

If CS reps are complete morons, you have all the right in the world to get smart with them and correct them and their slaughtering of the english language every chance you get.

While I see your intentions are to teach them a lesson, correcting them, as seen on this forum is often in a condenscending way. Let's understand that English may not be their first language and they (the support reps) still need to follow protocol, even if you don't agree with their terms.
I think when players get snotty, it can backfire. It's like they're sticking it to the man, even when it's a losing battle. If on the other hand, the player remains polite yet persistent, keeps the sarcasm to themselves, the outcome could land in their favor.

Just my 2 cents worth, but thanks for encouraging and giving the cheaters tips.

Disagree there. With so much emphasis on fully analysing the bonus T&C's I think players, hardcore, casual and new ones alike often gloss over the general T&Cs, where variations of my "tips" are listed.

Case in point, mummy's gold. No kidding, the bolded terms are situations I've run across where players are either uninformed (they didn't read the T&Cs), they disagree with and try to skirt around them, or they just plainly try to defraud the casino. Notice the first line. This is for players who claim the Casino's support was "piss poor"... I've seen a poster here mention that term for not informing the player in advance of an account lock. Hello?! It's pretty clear in the T&C, right? But no, they're up against the big bad casino..so the account lock was unjustified.

Anyway, the spirit of my original post was meant to educate players about the pitfalls and how to keep their noses clean. It does not encourage fraudsters to try and beat the system.

mummy's terms....
11. The Casino reserves the right to cancel the Player's account for any reason whatsoever at any time without notice to the Player. Any balance in the Player's account at the time of such cancellation will be credited to his/her credit card and/or sent to the Player by check. However, the Casino reserves the right, in its unfettered discretion, to void any winnings and confiscate any balance in a Casino account in any of the following circumstances:
I) If the Player has more than one active account for the Casino;
II) If the name on the Player's Casino account does not match the name on the credit card(s) used to make deposits on a Casino account;
III) If the Player participates in a Casino promotion and cashes-in before fulfilling the requirements of that particular promotion;

IV) If the Player provides incorrect or misleading registration information;
V) If the Player is not of legal age;
VI) If the Player resides in a jurisdiction where participation in Casino games is prohibited by law;
V11) If the Player has allowed or permitted (intentionally or unintentionally) someone else to play on his/her Casino account;
V111) If the Player has not played at the Casino on an individual basis for personal entertainment only (that is, the Player has played in a professional sense or in concert with other Player(s) as part of a club, group, etc.);
IX) If the Player has "charged back" any of the deposits made with his/her credit card on his/her Casino account;
X) If the Player is found cheating or if it is determined by the Casino that he/she has employed or made use of a system (including machines, computers, software or other automated systems) designed specifically to defeat the Casino; OR
XI) If the Casino should become aware that the Player has played at any other on-line casino under any of the circumstances set out at I) to X) above.
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[gerilege]

Why don't you PM Bryan & ask him just how many PAB's he get from players trying to pull stunts just like this?

I'm sure Bryan can handle them quite well. I doubt that these players are really unexperienced. Anyway, nobody who doctors documents deserves advice or help from CM members. Even if a new/unexperienced player commits forgery, it still remains forgery. So that advice is as useful as something like "Do not say to the police that somebody gave this gun to you after you have robbed a bank, because nobody would believe it". As this advice was posted on CM forum, it can be interpreted as hey all CM forum members, do not doctor documents.

I don't know if the OP has an ulterior motive or not, and I'm not going to get into any arguments with you or anyone else over this thread. We are all entitled our different opinions, and mine is simply that the original post contained some very good advice. I don't give a toss why he posted it!

Ulterior motive or not... Well I also don't know. But the original post reminds me a Multi-Level-Marketing or Pyramid presentation. You can't be sure whether the presenter really believes what he says, or he thinks that you will really believe what he says.

Different opinions and get into arguments... The key is we are all entitled. If your opinion was "the original post contained some very good advice.", I don't say a word.
But by writing " I don't understand why other posters are nit-picking your post", you already got into argument with somebody else.

Peace.

[jerrylee]

Ulterior motive or not... Well I also don't know. But the original post reminds me a Multi-Level-Marketing or Pyramid presentation. You can't be sure whether the presenter really believes what he says, or he thinks that you will really believe what he says.

gerilege I invite you to read the posts right above yours, where I give examples of the tips from the original post, including comparison to published mummy's gold terms and conditions.
And yes, of course I believe what I am saying, I have seen it with my own eyes. It's not some ficitional anecdote.

[gerilege]

KasinoKing's right on the money here.
Imagine this. You're a new player. You find a great bonus offer. You love slots. You see a progressive jackpot.. the lights and sounds (online, anyway) dazzle you. You drop $300. You lose. Your spouse checks your credit card statement. He/She flips out. He/She rants and raves. How could you waste $300 on online gambling????
You contact casino support. You try to BS them saying you never created the account. You never authorized the charge. Someone hacked your PC. You're not responsible.
The casino asks you to back up your claim. Desperate, you doctor some kind of proof. The casino auditors analyze your claim and the "proof" you sent. They reject it. You're out $300.

Now are you (not KasinoKing) telling me that an inexperienced/new player wouldn't dare attempt this, when in fact they regretted depositing the $300 in the first place? Oh no, the big bad casino rejected a player's fraud claim. Who's to blame now?

If someone would dare attempt this, than the casino is right. I never have questioned that. This is forgery in my opinion. My point was that such a player who attempts forgery (or thinking about it) doesn't deserve any advice at all. No matter he/she is an unexperienced player or not, and the situation is not gambling specific.