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Old 12th January 2007, 12:48 PM
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should I join sportsinteraction.com, CaribSports.com

sportsinteraction is one of 3 online gaming sites owned by Sia Ltd. You can find more info below about them:
http://online.casinocity.com/casinos...raction-casino
http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...rtsinteraction
http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...rtsinteraction


for CaribSports.com I found some information:
http://online.casinocity.com/sportsb...ribsports-com/
http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...ht=CaribSports


Both still accept usa players from New York. Therefore can somebody please inform me if it is safe to join them from their own personal experience with them or any other advice will help! thank you very much
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No, (not without more research anyway)

It is unwise to join any sports/casino site that appears as a link from a post from a forum member who has only joined recently. Such links often look like spam (the danger is, this means that often they are). References to other threads in this forum are fine, but external links are less so. Many spammers disguise their spam by asking questions like yours, or more often relating what a "great time" they had at the casino in question.

If you just retain the links to other casinomeister threads, but merely named the casino without making the link clickable, you should stay within forum guidelines for this section. It might also be better to keep this all in one thread so you have a point of reference for all your questions and our advice. You can set the forum to notify you by E-mail whenever an answer is posted to your question. This notification E-mail will contain a link directly to the thread without you having to go through the forum for it. This is under "additional options" & "thread subscription" below. Set "notify type" to, say, "daily E-mail notification". You can also choose "instant" or "weekly".

The best advice for new players is to join accredited sites that accept US players. While this is hard, there are a small number of RTG accredited casinos that accept US players, and some of the MG casinos will only bar the 11 states with prohibition enshrined in state law.

For sports betting, BoDog has an open door policy for US players, however what they offer is strictly illegal under the wire act with respect to sport, and this is the reason they don't appear to be accredited any longer. They pay out to Neteller lightning quick (1 to 2 hours from cash-in).

Being from New York is a big problem, as this is in one of those 11 states. This pretty much means only Intertops for MG casinos, or BoDog for sports/RTG casino. (Or taking a chance with the others, who may turn out to be rogues). To lessen the chances of being hit by an obvious rogue, take a look at rogue listings at a number of sites, as well as typing the casino's name into a search engine such as Google. In Google, look well down the list, as many sites try to mess with search engines to make the negative stuff harder to spot, and bring what can be bogus positive information to the top.

There is a forum search facility here, but I find it hard to get any meaningful results because it lacks support for boolean search criteria, for example, look for "Roxy Palace" and you get a mess of threads about just "Palace" because the search will return results with only one of the words. Only casinos with an uncommon name are easy to search out in this way, for example "splendido" will return results on the casino "Vegas Splendido" only (now called "Casino Splendido").
You could also try looking up the company behind the casino in Google, and see what there is about them, or even look up the people who run them if you know their names. This could expose if they had a reputation of serial roguery.

Any casino or especially sportsbook that accepts wagers from the 11 "banned" states is knowingly taking a big risk. There is always the danger that the DoJ will manage to get hold of their execs in order to close down the operation. This could lead to any funds on deposit being hard to retrieve.
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I am a member of carib sports and I think they run a top notch operation. There payouts are fast, usually within 10 minutes and the customer service has always been excellent. I always use the "send memo" link on their site and get answers within minutes. I am little concerned since pinnacle sports just stopped accepting US players though. I would have to rank #1 betjamaica and #2 carib sports in my book.
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My case

My country is usually considered as somewhat risky, maybe it's different for U.S. players, but...
Cashout time was excessive ("We haven't received your email containing your bank statement", etc, you know the story). Finally I received the money via international post transfer although I requested cheque!!! I never ever received a withdrawal such a way, that was very strange.
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wow this really really sucks for me: being from new york i can only register for accredited cainos and the only one i can join for my roulette strategy is microgaming casino site Intertops. However, before I do that can some one tell me do they monitor or have a log of your bets you place on casinos. The reason, I ask because they might consider my roulette strategy as abusive and won't process my payment. In addition, being for NY they can make another bogus reason that they don't accept players from NY anymore right after I want to withdraw or won enough cash for them to worry (at leat $1000 in 20 days). so please let me know! thank you very much
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wow this really really sucks for me: being from new york i can only register for accredited cainos and the only one i can join for my roulette strategy is microgaming casino site Intertops. However, before I do that can some one tell me do they monitor or have a log of your bets you place on casinos. The reason, I ask because they might consider my roulette strategy as abusive and won't process my payment. In addition, being for NY they can make another bogus reason that they don't accept players from NY anymore right after I want to withdraw or won enough cash for them to worry (at leat $1000 in 20 days). so please let me know! thank you very much
If you don't take a bonus, there shouldn't be any problem at all.

Having said that, there's no system for any game in existence that lets you win 100% of the time.
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Abusive?

This argument came up a while back with Vegas Affiliates, also Microgaming. They denied cashouts because of "illegitimate play", and in some cases this seemed to have nothing to do with bonuses or ID issues. Most players were paid after pressure, but there has never been an explanation of what exactly was seen as abusive. The conclusion was that it was playing style alone - often involving big bets, which seems rather odd.
There is a possibility that a sophisticated progressive betting strategy was deemed abusive because by chance it worked more than it should and the casinos got worried.
Intertops were seen as OK, and provided you don't take a bonus you should be OK, as they will be unable to cite "bonus abuse" if you start playing Roulette with one. Most casinos do not like allowing Roulette with bonus money.
To ensure they don't use the "forbidden state" excuse, get confirmation in writing that they have no problem with accepting new players from New York.
Try your system with small stakes over a couple of sessions, and then withdraw a modest amount. This gets your first withdrawal out of the way, and you can then ensure the casino does not make awkward excuses about not being satisfied with documents. Once you are happy (Intertops state that first withdrawals take 14 days, the rest are quicker) then deposit again and try the system more fully.

As for records, Playcheck keeps 21 days of past play in intimate detail. After this, the playlog disappears. I cannot be sure if it goes altogether, or whether it is just archived. Since the data eventually gets used for the PWC figures I doubt it is lost completely. I have seen a player told that their play cannot be retrieved because they waited too long, but this could just have been an excuse from a casino that knew the playlog would show the player to have been right.
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This argument came up a while back with Vegas Affiliates, also Microgaming. They denied cashouts because of "illegitimate play", and in some cases this seemed to have nothing to do with bonuses or ID issues. Most players were paid after pressure, but there has never been an explanation of what exactly was seen as abusive. The conclusion was that it was playing style alone - often involving big bets, which seems rather odd.
There is a possibility that a sophisticated progressive betting strategy was deemed abusive because by chance it worked more than it should and the casinos got worried.
Intertops were seen as OK, and provided you don't take a bonus you should be OK, as they will be unable to cite "bonus abuse" if you start playing Roulette with one. Most casinos do not like allowing Roulette with bonus money.
To ensure they don't use the "forbidden state" excuse, get confirmation in writing that they have no problem with accepting new players from New York.
Try your system with small stakes over a couple of sessions, and then withdraw a modest amount. This gets your first withdrawal out of the way, and you can then ensure the casino does not make awkward excuses about not being satisfied with documents. Once you are happy (Intertops state that first withdrawals take 14 days, the rest are quicker) then deposit again and try the system more fully.

As for records, Playcheck keeps 21 days of past play in intimate detail. After this, the playlog disappears. I cannot be sure if it goes altogether, or whether it is just archived. Since the data eventually gets used for the PWC figures I doubt it is lost completely. I have seen a player told that their play cannot be retrieved because they waited too long, but this could just have been an excuse from a casino that knew the playlog would show the player to have been right.

thanks for the info: that really helps! I guess I have to try exactly what you say just to be safe and see what happens next. Anyway, do you think i should try the same thing with sportsinteraction.com and caribsports.com or thats slightly more risky? what I would be doing: depositing less then 100 then after i win less then 175 I will ask for a withdrawal. if everything goes okay, I will withdraw 30% more. do you think that is safe?
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Unsure about the other two, but I cannot see a withdrawal of 175 from a deposit of 100 triggering any kind of audit. In order to trigger document requests, withdrawals tend to have to be larger. Neteller is likely to be the least troublesome, as card based deposits leave the casino open to charebacks. You will most likely be unable to find a card that works, even the pre-paid ones seem to be blocking US players at casinos.

I suspect what triggers a closer look is if you win slowly and consistently over a long period at a game that should get you in the end. It may be wise to retain your own Playcheck records, just in case you do very well and need to defend a claim of "cheating".
Once Vegas Affiliate casinos had the heat turned up on them they paid, as they say, "after pressure from the wider gaming community". This looks like they had a thin case, but were sure that something was up due to said players winning too much with a "system" of play that should not be working.
Roulette systems only work if there is some kind of long term bias in the game, such as a tired croupier or uneven roulette wheel. Online, problems with the software can be responsible, but a casino will not want to admit this as it will discredit the casino's fairness which will probably cost them more than just paying and banning one or two players. Hopefully this is the worst that will happen, paid off, and told not to come back. (I've had this often with the Fruit Machines ).
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Sports Inter Action is ok,

I would recommend SBG global for fine service and fast payouts.

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