Something is wrong here

**hbears341** · 11th January 2007, 10:17 PM

Look at these two features.

The Mermaid game gave 10 free spins and the Honey to the Bee game gave 12 free spins and those were the payouts!

**hbears341** · 11th January 2007, 10:18 PM

And...

**vinylweatherman** · 11th January 2007, 11:16 PM

That sucks!

Less than 5x initial bet is poor. I have had spells where a dozen RTG bonus rounds have come in at under 10x bet. I get the feeling RTG bonus rounds pay less than the average MG bonus round. Worse, RTG have a 2000x stake cap if you ever get a really good bonus round (worked out at 40,000x line bet, sounds better that way).

Operators have claimed that their own RTG casinos are paying 96%+ on the slots, slightly more than MG, which averages at just over 95%

It must be that the distribution of wins is different with RTG slots, with a higher amount paid outside of the feature rounds than at MG.

The only consolation is that RTG gives out more bonuses than MG, so provided you can decipher the bonus terms, you should get a decent amount of play. Pretty much all RTG slots have a progressive jackpot (called the Random Jackpot). I suspect that the contribution rate can be changed at will by the operator as I play one RTG where the RJ hardly moves from day to day, and is barely over 1000 on most slots, and at another the RJ is often around 4K to 6K on most slots, and increases visibly as I spin. Possibly, RTG casinos where the RJ barely changes and stays low pay out more of the "96%" on the basic game, and less from the RJ being hit.

**Simmo!** · 11th January 2007, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by vinylweatherman

Possibly, RTG casinos where the RJ barely changes and stays low pay out more of the "96%" on the basic game, and less from the RJ being hit.

Interesting theory. I was hoping to find out more about how RTG software backend works in London, altho RTG themselves have pulled out I believe.

**KasinoKing** · 11th January 2007, 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by hbears341

Look at these two features.

The Mermaid game gave 10 free spins and the Honey to the Bee game gave 12 free spins and those were the payouts!

I can't see what's wrong - looks like normal RTG to me...

PS

**winbig** · 12th January 2007, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by hbears341

Look at these two features.

The Mermaid game gave 10 free spins and the Honey to the Bee game gave 12 free spins and those were the payouts!

It's not only RTG, it's MG also. Check out my last post in the "Sucks" thread

**aka23** · 12th January 2007, 02:00 AM

Originally Posted by vinylweatherman

Operators have claimed that their own RTG casinos are paying 96%+ on the slots, slightly more than MG, which averages at just over 95%

Where did you hear the 96%+ number? The overall payout numbers I've seen are 96%+, but slot payouts would pull the average down, and are likely below 96%. For example, King Solomon's and Spectra Games both list the following overall payout percernts:

Payouts Table :
March - 97%
April - 96.6%
May - 96.9%
June - 96.5%
July - 96.5%
August - 96.9%

On the subject of the identical payout percents at KS and SG, does anyone know the relation between these two casinos? Many sections of the two websites are identical, even down to the bonus codes -- New101 and New102.

**Sodax77** · 12th January 2007, 03:03 AM

Nothing wrong.

Example new games... i found that sometimes i don't win even 5 x Bet.
But suddenly, i may win 150 x Bet! Same experience with MG as well.

**gerilege** · 12th January 2007, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by winbig

It's not only RTG, it's MG also. Check out my last post in the "Sucks" thread

Yeah. No screenshot, but 0.02 coin size, @2 coins/line, playing Isis ($1 total bet), got 20 free spins with 6x multiplier, and the total payout (including original scatter win) was 8.28$.