Roulette- why you can't ever constantly win.

[mbcobretti]

OK, I've been looking at playing roulette for a couple of days, and I think this example will show how you cannot ever make a constant profit playing this game.

Say you wait and watch ten spins and wait for 10 numbers to come in- now you bet on every number that has not came in so far- may seem a good strategy cos surely the same number cannot come in more than twice in another 5 goes? Wrong, the same number has every chance once the betting comences- I played on a practise table and the number 7 came in 3 times within 10 goes, so maybe go for betting on the same number. Wrong, because you may then get 20 completely different numbers in a row and the first system would have worked.

The above point is a very simple system but highlights a very important point, it is imposible to know what number or colour is going to come in- even if you try and follow a much more complicated and thought out system, they will always fail because a roulette table is never going to play the same as it did in the last 10 goes.

If anyone can actually claim to win constantly at roulette, I'd love to hear from them?

Of course, with all successful systems, they provide profit over a given time- you can go days with a losing streak, but good systems pull thorugh and show profit at the end of the month. So, can anyone claim to use a successful system for roulette?

I think perhaps the only system that may provide some profit is backing red if red came in last. I know that there is no memory on a roulette table, but one thing that seems to happen a lot is you see 'streaks' of the same colour. There is a 50/50 chance of each colour and say after 1,000 goes, the actual number of reds and blacks will be roughly the same down to stats, but they will not be in a constant order of red - black - red - black - red - black and so on- that is too perfect in my opinion. Yet, this can't be practised on online tables cos they are computerised anyway, the number or colour is already predicted before it even comes in.

I'd like to try the system but I reckon you'd need at least 100 worth of goes at level stakes to see if any constant profit could be made.

Anyone with any thoughts or experience are welcome to post- i'm interested in what people think!

P.S, I'm gonna record 100 worth of goes on a online site anyway just to se what happens, but it would be best doing it in a proper casino.

[tencardcharlie]

I think perhaps the only system that may provide some profit is backing red if red came in last. I know that there is no memory on a roulette table, but one thing that seems to happen a lot is you see 'streaks' of the same colour. There is a 50/50 chance of each colour and say after 1,000 goes, the actual number of reds and blacks will be roughly the same down to stats, but they will not be in a constant order of red - black - red - black - red - black and so on- that is too perfect in my opinion. Yet, this can't be practised on online tables cos they are computerised anyway, the number or colour is already predicted before it even comes in.

What kind of force do you think it is that make the ball become attracted towards certain colours on the table?

I'd like to try the system but I reckon you'd need at least 100 worth of goes at level stakes to see if any constant profit could be made.

I can tell you with much higher accuracy that it doesn't work, without making one single spin.

[aka23]

The roulette wheel does not have a memory. Future outcomes do not depend on previous results (in a fair game). The house edge is constant for all spins.

[Ronin]

The roulette wheel does not have a memory. Future outcomes do not depend on previous results (in a fair game). The house edge is constant for all spins.

Very correct, this also means there is no such system to play roullete.

Yet you can "constantly" win with roulette, in fact the chance of winning as much as "a" jackpot with slots is about the same.

Example:
To keep it easy, we shall take out the house edge by removing the green zero.
I bet $1 on RED, I have a 1/2 or 50% chance that it comes up, ergo there are 18 red spots and 18 black spots on a roulette wheel.

Now we have to keep in mind what Aka23 said

Future outcomes do not depend on previous results

So the next spin, the chance that RED will come up is also 1/2 or 50%.
This means that the chance for RED to comeup multiple consecutive times is
1/2*1/2*1/2 ......

To put it all together, we had $1 dollar on RED, and now we like to know what chance we have to get 10 consecutive hits on RED and also what our wins are, knowing that RED pays out 1 to 1 (=2 for 1):

1/2*1/2 *1/2*1/2*1/2*1/2*1/2*1/2*1/2*1/2 = 1/2^10 = 1/1024
$2 4 8 16 32 64 128 256 512 1024

We can conclude that, without the houseedge, you have a 1/1024 chance
to win $1024 by betting $1 of your own bankroll (leave the winnings on the table after a win, to play with the house's money!).

If you continue the series the odds of winning a big amount (slot jackpot size) with roulette are often better then those of winning the "super dooper million dollar progressive" slot.

Hope this clarifies it a bit.

Greetz

Ronin

[Nifty29]

My system for constant winning at Roulette is to only play tables that pay 37-1 for single numbers.

Dont get much play these days

[ddice]

Why is there even a single reply to this?

[Jarome]

Why is there even a single reply to this?

You need to understand human behavior to ask this question. In a perfect world the only reply would be that of aka32 - short, simple and accurate.
But we are not in a perfect world (which is infect a perfect world to live in - flaws should be embraced) which means the OP would not understand aka32's short answer. hence the LONG reply by Ronin. but wait..... This is not really the reason why Ronin wrote the post - It is because the human nature is in search of fame... constantly. Being the "smartest" in a post can bring quite the fame.
As you can see the answer to your question could've been answered shortly like aka32 but my humane nature is longing for fame (and of course fortune) - I thank you for taking your time to read. Now GLORIFY me!

[Ronin]

You need to understand human behavior to ask this question. In a perfect world the only reply would be that of aka32 - short, simple and accurate.
But we are not in a perfect world (which is infect a perfect world to live in - flaws should be embraced) which means the OP would not understand aka32's short answer. hence the LONG reply by Ronin. but wait..... This is not really the reason why Ronin wrote the post - It is because the human nature is in search of fame... constantly. Being the "smartest" in a post can bring quite the fame.
As you can see the answer to your question could've been answered shortly like aka32 but my humane nature is longing for fame (and of course fortune) - I thank you for taking your time to read. Now GLORIFY me!

Wow Jarome.. you're definitly the smartest in this post.

hat off !

[KasinoKing]

To answer the original question: Quit when you're ahead!

No matter what system you use, if you play it long enough you will lose.
So just stop when you're ahead, come back the next day, use a different system & quit ahead again!
Hey-presto - consistent winnings!

Before anyone asks - no I don't do this myself.
But I am going to when all the easy bonus money runs out...

[gfkostas]

But if red has come 20 times in a row isn't it more likely that black will be coming up shortly at least once? since rarely do we ever see a consecutive color for more than 10 times. Sure the ball has no memory but mathematics dictate the outcome and mathematics say that red can't come all the time especially when its been 10+ in a row. I naively believe that a roulette with no bet limits can be beaten.