Roulette- why you can't ever constantly win.

**bpb** · 28th December 2006, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by gfkostas

Is black more favorable to come at least once after 25 reds in a row? The answer is yes

After 20 reds the probability for each colour to come is still 48,65% but this isn't what am talking about here.

You're not making any sense at all.

Repeat after me .... "wheels have no memory"

**Slotster!** · 28th December 2006, 03:19 PM

Anyone seen Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100519/

**Jarome** · 28th December 2006, 05:10 PM

All of you..... You're just so.... WRONG!

I have the best system and it always works for me. I watch the ball bounce and spins and then it's like - "Damn i told ya it's goin to be black" I'm telling my friend and I leave without making a single bet!

I don't really like the roulette - but it's fun to watch my friends gamble.

I should really head to Vegas next month - haven't been there for a while.

**gfkostas** · 28th December 2006, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by bpb

You're not making any sense at all.

Repeat after me .... "wheels have no memory"

wheels have no memory but mathematics dictate certain things regardless of your opinion about it. After 20 reds it is impossible to have another 20 of the same. That would make it 40 in a row. No chance!

**anadolu** · 28th December 2006, 08:51 PM

Hi everyone;

I want to mention to you about my roulette system which i have been working on for a long time and just finished...

I began to play roulette approximately two years ago. At first; i was only betting on sports, then i knew roulette.
Roulette, which seems so easy to play, actually was the game of the devil and to understand this made my pocket empty.

Then i began to play with martingale, although i won very much, it wasn't too long to understand it was a suicide.

Then side bets, later others, result: lost,lost,lost...
The ones who started with me lost all of their money but i did not forgive and went on...

I thought... i cant win on colour bets, i cant win on side bets, i cant win with martingale, and what was necessary to win??? it was going to be nonsense to think about numbers... 1/37, huh... But this opinion became the main road to turn from... I understood that i had to bet on numbers if i wanted to win... i couldnt use martingale because the machine protects itself, if you use martingale... then i found a way... i was going to choose a number and bet on it 37 times...

This tactic seemed well first times, i was earning money... but it did not continue too long, i finished it as the number which i chose did not come in spite of 325 bets!!!

But i did not forgive again... i had to guess a number to come in a short time...

Anyway, lets turn to the topic... I had to guess the true number only after a few bets... But how could i do it? ( and i was writing datas of the hands i played.)

I needed a signal, and these datas showed me the signals. And i began to know the numbers... In first times, i couldnt believe to myself, i was saying that this number will come and it was coming, i thought that it was the time i became rich, if i start in morning, i would be a millionaire that evening... And i became, but it was only half an hour, i had won 2000 with a starting budget 250... but i lost all of the money half an hour... But what was the mistake? The numbers which i bet on was caming but what became and i lost all??? Then i understood, i didnt know to say stop to myself, for example i bet 1 stake on a number, as it didnt come i bet 5 or 10 than the machine became angry...

And finally, i noticed the patience factor which all the gamblers has to have... After i noticed the patience factor i win 30 - 50 stake once a day and i leave the game and the other day, i get 30 - 50 and leave again...

At this point, i decided to write this to the forum, because i wasnt able to win more than 30 - 50 stake... Dear friends, please do not want me to make an explanation about signals... At least, i dont want them to make changes on the algoritma... As you're reading, dont forget that there are others who are reading...

Someone who interests this topic, pls send me a pm and i will give my msn address and we would be in contact, i suppose, to write the address here is forbidden, and i hope these article which i wrote to share my experiments would not be cleaned...

Sincerely

**Swede** · 28th December 2006, 09:05 PM

This is getting better and better....please don't lock this thread guys, I really enjoy reading it

**bpb** · 28th December 2006, 09:35 PM

Originally Posted by gfkostas

wheels have no memory but mathematics dictate certain things regardless of your opinion about it.

I didn't give an opinion about anything

Originally Posted by gfkostas

After 20 reds it is impossible to have another 20 of the same. That would make it 40 in a row. No chance!

The chance of the 2nd series of 20 reds is identical to the chance of the 1st series of 20 reds. You can't say that you accept the fact that wheels have no memory unless you also accept that the probabilities are equal.

Chance of 20 reds in a row from an arbitrary starting point = (18/38)^20
Chance of 20 reds in a row after 20 reds = (18/38)^20
chance of 20 reds in a row after 20 blacks = (18/38)^20
Chance of 20 reds in a row after 100 reds = (18/38)^20
Chance of 20 reds in a row after 100 blacks = (18/38)^20

Notice a pattern?

It doesn't matter how improbable the previous series of events was, the fact is, THEY'VE ALREADY HAPPENED!

**winbig** · 28th December 2006, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by bpb

I didn't give an opinion about anything

The chance of the 2nd series of 20 reds is identical to the chance of the 1st series of 20 reds. You can't say that you accept the fact that wheels have no memory unless you also accept that the probabilities are equal.

Chance of 20 reds in a row from an arbitrary starting point = (18/38)^20
Chance of 20 reds in a row after 20 reds = (18/38)^20
chance of 20 reds in a row after 20 blacks = (18/38)^20
Chance of 20 reds in a row after 100 reds = (18/38)^20
Chance of 20 reds in a row after 100 blacks = (18/38)^20

Notice a pattern?

It doesn't matter how improbable the previous series of events was, the fact is, THEY'VE ALREADY HAPPENED!

Yes, but he said a series of 20 reds after a series of 20 reds already occurred. That would bring it to (18/30)^40. Not impossible, but nearly.

**winbig** · 28th December 2006, 09:53 PM

Sorry, typo. That should be (18/38)^40, not 18/30

**liquuid_fusion** · 28th December 2006, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by anadolu

i lost all of the money half an hour... But what was the mistake? The numbers which i bet on was caming but what became and i lost all??? Then i understood, i didnt know to say stop to myself, for example i bet 1 stake on a number, as it didnt come i bet 5 or 10 than the machine became angry...

Your mistake was continuing to play a -EV roulette "system". If you keep the stakes small, you may win at first - but in reality it will just take you longer to lose.