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Old 12th December 2006, 03:59 AM
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RTG Bonus - What am I missing?

Here are some bonuses being offered at Cirrus Casino. The ones I underlined in red what do you make of those? If there is no playthrough and no max cashout can't you simply deposit get the bonus and withdraw? What am I missing here?

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I see three key issues:

1. It's Virtual group (rogue issues).

2. It's a sticky bonus.

3. Blackjack play is limited.

The group does also offer fully cashable bonuses with no playthrough from time to time. I have a pending dispute over ~$2,000 that relates to such a bonus.
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Thanks for your input. What is a sticky bonus?
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Thanks for your input. What is a sticky bonus?

It is one that can never be cashed out. If you withdraw, the bonus is removed, so in effect you only borrow the bonus for play in that session. These types of bonuses can still be used to advantage, so a promise of no playthrough should ring alarm bells, as should the fact that it is an RTG, AND run by Virtual.
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The phrase "no restrictions" is kind of vague. I'm going to assume in that very particular case, it means no max winnings, no playthough requirement, but still limited to slots only play. However, I could be wrong, it could mean something else.

So you deposit $100, you get $25. You play three spins. If you get your chipcount up to $225, your net cashout will actually be $25, as the bonus is deleted. If you lose and the chipcount gets down to $25, then you actually cashout nothing at all.

But there's myriad options that those casinos like to throw out of game limitations, playthrough requirements, redemption maxes, deposit mins, and stickiness/cashability. It's kind of fun to parse all of them, but it's mainly insane.
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It is one that can never be cashed out. If you withdraw, the bonus is removed, so in effect you only borrow the bonus for play in that session. These types of bonuses can still be used to advantage, so a promise of no playthrough should ring alarm bells, as should the fact that it is an RTG, AND run by Virtual.
Just a matter of terminology, but most people would call this a Phantom bonus.
A sticky bonus (extremely rare these days) is one you can not cash out, but it does stay in your account after you withdraw your winnings, and so can be used again.
I particularly remember Roman Casino used sticky bonuses. (Are they still going?)
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Just a matter of terminology, but most people would call this a Phantom bonus.
A sticky bonus (extremely rare these days) is one you can not cash out, but it does stay in your account after you withdraw your winnings, and so can be used again.
I particularly remember Roman Casino used sticky bonuses. (Are they still going?)
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As long as we are nitpicking, I wouldn't say most people would call this a phantom bonus. On the forums I follow, most people call this type of bonus "sticky." There are some who call it phantom, sticky type I, or some variant of non-cashable; but most just call it sticky.
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Thanks for your input. What is a sticky bonus?
In general you can't withdraw the sticky bonus. Following types exist:

-Sticky I (most frequent): The bonus is deducted from your cashout and gone for good.
-Sticky II (less frequent): The bonus can never be cashed out, but remains on your account for further wagering.
-Hyibrid (rare): Mixture of sticky II and cashable bonuses. A smaller part (i.e 10%) of the sticky bonus is cashable.

Usually the bonus T&C helps you to decide, which type the current bonus is.

Sticky bonuses are not rare, so you always have to check the T&Cs, and in case you wouldn't like to play with a sticky bonus, you have to be sure, that there's nothing like "non-cashable" or "will be deducted", etc in them.
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