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Old 11th December 2006, 04:02 PM
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How do casinos stick to what they promis

Aim of this topic is to report on how casinos stick to their promises(regarding bonuses). As a bonus abuser, using provocative strategies, I am able to examine the matter in very profoundly.

I will start with Mysportsbook.com (owner: Sportingbet). After taking advantage of thier welcome bonus, my account was locked and my winning confiscated. I did not even recieve any statement why manager decided to act that way. On one hand, the are listed on stock exchange, on the other hand, they suck.

Vipcasino.com (owner: same as intercasino). I registered as a German player to recieve the bonus. My nationality, however, is not German. If I had registered under my real nationality, I would not have recieved the bonus. My account was locked after few days and I was told to open another one with correct information. I did so. Funds from previos account were transfed in full(including bonus which I would not have recieved under normal circumstances). I find this behaviour very profesional.

Vegas partner group(Maple, Sunvegas, 777dragon...). I have abused bonus in first two casinos in the group playing in GBP(to maximize the profit). It the third one, however, bonus was rejected and I was told to open account in EURos. I did so and I recieved the bonus. My friend started playing this group in Euros. After abusing two bonuses, he was ordered to open account in USD despite he is from same country as I am. From what is stated abode, I conclude that casino manager is eighter indecisive or not willing to give out bonuses.
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Old 11th December 2006, 04:21 PM
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You're more provocative than I am. I generally make a good faith effort to use my real location, currency, have only one account, and to comply precisely whatever crazy terms and conditions are on the bonus.

I get a share of slow pays, but haven't had a no-pay, or even bonus confiscation yet.

The closest I ever had to a casino totally jerking me around was at Club Player casino. I won big on a "zero playthrough" bonus playing BJ. However, I didn't notice their fine print specified that if over roughly half of wagering was on BJ, the coupon actually had a pretty high wagering requirement. Withdrawal was rejected, and so I wagered an equal amount on another game to dip the ratio back down to 50%. They still refused the withdrawal, and said such wagering flagged would flag me as a bonus abuser and have my winnings confiscated. So I went ahead and completed the entire WR (which actually turned a several hundred dollar win into a small loss). I was annoyed, but have not had a problem with them on another deposit/withdrawal cycle since.

I've also been banned from one casino and banned from bonuses at another. In both cases, the winnings were still paid. And finally, I got the "advantage player" label at two RTGs, which limits but does not eliminate the bonuses I can receive.
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Old 11th December 2006, 05:35 PM
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To me, the answer is simple... Stop abusing bonuses. Bonus abusers make claiming a bonus hard for all of us who are merely trying to enrich our bankroll and not screw the casino over.
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Old 11th December 2006, 05:43 PM
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I registered as a German player to recieve the bonus. My nationality, however, is not German. If I had registered under my real nationality, I would not have recieved the bonus. My account was locked after few days and I was told to open another one with correct information.
Not that it matters to you, but this is the reason the rest of us "suffer" the inconveniences of playing and using the bonuses correctly (I am not a bonus player unless forced or forget to deny one prior to playing).

What else in life do you try to cheat/lie/steal at? For this boils down to what type of person you are in life that tries to pull stunts like this that makes everyone else suffer.
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Aim of this topic is to report on how casinos stick to their promises(regarding bonuses). As a bonus abuser, using provocative strategies, I am able to examine the matter in very profoundly.
There is NOTHING admirable about going around and saying you abuse bonuses.That is like saying, you kick the cat/dog everytime no one is looking. Does it make you feel better?

Most of us just enjoy the play and like being treated as we play, on the up and up and with fairplay. The sneakiness/lieing is what gets me. I truly get ill to my stomache reading this kind of stuff. This is why I don't read a lot of these posts and just mark them read .
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You're more provocative than I am. I generally make a good faith effort to use my real location, currency, have only one account, and to comply precisely whatever crazy terms and conditions are on the bonus.
At least EasyRhino does make an effort to give good faith as the casino does by giving back bonuses.

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Old 11th December 2006, 08:11 PM
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To me, the answer is simple... Stop abusing bonuses. Bonus abusers make claiming a bonus hard for all of us who are merely trying to enrich our bankroll and not screw the casino over.
Totally agree with Jen & Silcnlayc.
People abusing bonuses just make it harder for the rest of us to make our monthly income.
Look at the long term, rather than the short term, and you should have few problems.
I have made literally $1,000's at a couple of casinos using their monthlies over the years, and never had a hint of a problem - because I don't abuse, but play lots of different games.
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Old 11th December 2006, 08:52 PM
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You should check out the posts at 2+2, some people pay their friends to make accounts at casinos for them to play and they split the profit.

BTW, is lying about your age considered bonus abuse? There was one casino that required people to be 21+, but it also said that if you were legal in your jurisdiction, you could play... Well, sadly I haven't reached 21 yet, but I still put my age as 21, as I am more than legal to play in my jurisdiction (Canada, 19+)..I would not argue with the casino if they confiscated my winnings because of my age, but if they never requested documents, would that be considered bonus abuse?
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Old 11th December 2006, 09:20 PM
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I await your first thread:
so and so casino does not pay my winnings ...
Some of the facts you are presenting are not bonus abusing but simply - sorry -: cheating.
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I agree with nearly everyone (except the uninvited guest). This just kills me. Even though I know there are plenty of people playing bonuses - I hate to see people trying to go out of their way to steal from a casino.

Yes, this is why so many casinos have such strict regulations now... It's sad for those of us who play legitimately and then get questioned. It's all because of people exactly like you.
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To me, the answer is simple... Stop abusing bonuses. Bonus abusers make claiming a bonus hard for all of us who are merely trying to enrich our bankroll and not screw the casino over.
Agree 100% The legit players are the ones who suffer because of your bonus abuse.
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Bonus abuse is quite rampant these days. I have heard of people who have 30+ identities to play bonuses. It's truly amazing to hear what goes in this industry.
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