Brutal RTG sessions

[winbig]

I can't say much, because in the few years I've been gambling online, I have never been up enough to cash out at a non-RTG casino.

I've always have the worst luck at Playtech (before the UIGEA) and MG casinos...

RTG is the only platform where I am in the black overall, by about $3-4K

[PegeeSue]

Originally Posted by Mike031

That can't be, becasue they didn't payout more than $ 500 a day and if you want to pay out more, you must wait 2-3 business days, to get your next $ 500 (not one day, as written in their T&C) and this is for me a fact, why i'll never play there in the future, because this really sucks!
The same is certainly on their Sistercasino SciFi!

Mike. You are right when you say $500..but it wasn't in one day..the first withdraw transaction was $500.00 in 2 days...When I seen that in my ewallet I immediately called them asking wtf?..they told me that was their withdraw policy but now because they processed the first $500. The rest in TOTAL would be done in the next 1-3 working days. It was the next day that I received the rest of the money into my ewallet.

You can only do withdraws of $500 per. But you can do as many $500 withdraws as your balance allows. The initial withdraw of 500 is the first one they do then they give you the rest in bulk as they did me. I was surprised to say the least.

Although it was a great win. Choosing ewallet has it's pros and cons. To depo into ewallet from my bank they charge $1.50 which was so great I though. But to withdraw from ewallet back into my bank account they charge a whopping 10% of the total withdraw.

[kimss]

Originally Posted by PegeeSue

But to withdraw from ewallet back into my bank account they charge a whopping 10% of the total withdraw.

OMG! That's what I call a nice looking business model!

[Mike031]

Originally Posted by PegeeSue

Mike. You are right when you say $500..but it wasn't in one day.

Surely, why not and btw. i must know this exactly, because i could withdraw very much, but you must withdraw your balance up to 12pm EST, after it, you get your money only the next day

Certainly only business days!

[Kenny Lingus]

After reading a few of those who had responded to the thread after I posted (specifically, those who like RTG casinos), I decided to return for one more session so that I could figure out exactly why I hate the RTG casinos & software soooo much. $150.00 later, I've boiled it down to this:

1) You almost always hit line payouts that are meager. When I used to play MG software, I could hit a 5 symbol payline (or better yet, 5 scatters) and have some cash to play with for a while. At RTG, I have never hit a 5 symbol payline above Aces (or Pears at Fruit Frenzy), nor 5 scatters (only 4 a few times). Today, I hit 5 10s on Raindance, with a $1.00 total bet, and I won....6 whole dollars. And 5 9s on Achilles paid....4 dollars! Give me a f---in' break! If you don't hit the feature or RJ at RTG, you just have no chance on the slots.

2) The "near misses" that continually pop up on the slots. "Yeah, I coulda won really big if the reels stopped sooner on the 4th and 5th reel." Who do these idiots think they are kidding? Does anybody really believe that these are mechanical-working slots? To continually have the reels show a big(ger) winner "if they just would have alligned in a slightly different manner", is just a constant reminder that you actually just won a sucky payout. Anyone with half a brain will realize that the "better" combination that didn't come is one big tease.

3) The annoying way the wheels spin when you are hoping to hit one of the features. (I would really like to meet the guy who is responsible for this charming feature, just so I could knee him in the groin.) There are a few different ways that this is so irritating. First, it's retarded and serves absolutely no legitimate purpose. Second, it is totally frustrating when the process starts and ends without hitting the feature succesfully, as you know that if you don't hit one soon, you might be done (see #1 above). Finally, there is nothing as bad as seeing the winning/completing symbol pass by during this whirring period, knowing that it won't hit this time. A simple question - why is this silly additional spinning period necessary? Why can't the reels just spin normally?

4) Random Jackpots. I wouldn't complain if I won one (I haven't), but I object to the fact that these are paid to a few, at the expense of many. If I wanted this type of "action", I would play Little Lotto. Just another large amount of cash staring me in the face that I have little chance to win. And really, who knows what liberties are taken with these funds? There are no rules to be followed in administering this money, just the good will of the casino operators, which I'm sure is an oxymoron of some sort.

5) No 5-line or 9-line slots (well, ok they have a few older, crappy ones). My favorite MG slots are of the Thunderstruck variety. A nine-line slot packs more of a "punch" when you hit a good payline, compared to a 20 or 25 line slot, who's payout will be a little "watered down" comparibly speaking. RTG has 30-some video slots, all are 20 lines (except Fruit Frenzy, which is 25, and the older, outdated ones), and all rely on some sort of trick/feature in order to payout big. Why not a slot or two that just pays out aggressively?

And that is my top five reasons why RTG sucks. I'm sure there are a few more, but I am getting tired now, so this will have to do.

Which leads me to a question for you all: are there any other types of online casinos that one can play in Illinois besides RTG? And what deposit options does a player have at these alternatives?

[Mike031]

Originally Posted by Kenny Lingus

Today, I hit 5 10s on Raindance, with a $1.00 total bet, and I won....6 whole dollars.

Okay i must agree with you, that "Rain Dance's" Free Spins really sucks, because you can only win much, when you get the 100 free spins and if they're retrigger, although the maximum payout 40,000x your betline is also a joke, because that's not really fair.
I think you must play and lose very long, before you'll get this 100 free spins, so it were only fair, to get all your money, you could win and i've never heard/seen about such a rule on another Casino!

[kimss]

Great post man, you made my day over here,

Originally Posted by Kenny Lingus

And 5 9s on Achilles paid....4 dollars! Give me a f---in' break!

It's a joke really, I must admit MG's Avalon as example ain't much better with it's 9s and 10s, however - you usually win if you get the feature.

Originally Posted by Kenny Lingus

The "near misses" that continually pop up on the slots.

I thought it was supposed to be random? Near misses ain't random in my head! Its cold, it's calculated to trigger the gambling mind.

Originally Posted by Kenny Lingus

I would really like to meet the guy who is responsible for this charming feature, just so I could knee him in the groin.

Haha! When I think of it, I'll join you! Where did that fast spin button hide itself by the way?

Originally Posted by Kenny Lingus

Random Jackpots.

If I understood it correctly, most people getting the "random" jackpots have gotten them more than once aswell. This can be concluded when reading the "RTG Survival Guide" which some users in here have written, and in this guide, you need to get the random jackpots to stay ahead... Hmmm... By the way, I never got one either.

Originally Posted by Kenny Lingus

No 5-line or 9-line slots

Totally agree, I enjoy theese myself. Infact I love the ones without feature aswell, they really have to throw a punch with their winnings, since the system cant "hide" the winnings in a theoretical possible you might get feature with x7 multiplier, if you get my drift.

[silcnlayc]

Being only one of the few casinos left taking american players..I thought long and hard on leaving this casino. This last session I had was the final straw.

It convinced me in making this break from Bodog's not because I had never cashed out, but because I haven't had any decent play session for weeks for the amount I invested.

The last few weeks the sessions have lasted maybe a few minutes if that and I was no longer enjoying strictly depositing and was tired of the excuses being made on the software changes I felt were done.

I used to be able to hit a few hands in blackjack before a run of losses, but the last few deposits were srtickly losses...nothing was feeling good about these sessions and I needed to make it known that the "feel" has gone off on the games.

Good luck to anyone staying with them.

Please do not get me wrong, I am not saying FIXED, I am saying changes...to the players detriment. I did mention that the feel was off a few weeks ago when the play time became almost nil and now I sent them my last email.

The response here to my email is an excerpt from bodog:

Thank you for contacting Bodog Casino Customer Service.

We are sorry to hear that you wish to no longer play in our casino. However, we have deactivated your casino account as per your request. If you would like it re-activated after 72 hours or more we ask that you contact Casino Customer Service.

While we can understand your frustration with the last twenty hands that were played at our Blackjack tables and the results are as follows, the dealer had 17 winning hands, there was 2 pushes and 1 win for the player.

Again we can understand your feelings of aggravation with this session but we assure you that the software is fair and the cards are random as we have explained in our previous correspondences. Even though it was a bad session we hope that you will give us a chance to give you many fun winning sessions with us.

My question is, how many players are they willing to lose when the amount of play session goes to nil for everyone? I know I can't be the only one experiencing this for the last few weeks.

As they stated, I must be in one helluva losing streak..but one thing they forgot was, it IS my money ,and I don't need them as much as they are going to need me....in these times of unrest in the online gaming industry.

If and when it does get regulated, Bodog will be my LAST choice to return to now.

[SlotsWizard]

Originally Posted by silcnlayc

the dealer had 17 winning hands, there was 2 pushes and 1 win for the player

...

we assure you that the software is fair and the cards are random

I know exactly how you feel. You feel like you have been cheated. This is the kind of "bad luck" I always experienced when I played RTG blackjack.

Mind you, I learned from this and sometimes still do play RTG blackjack but never more than $5 a bet - anything larger than that and I am sure to lose. Even a $5 bet is asking for trouble.

Back in the day when I had a lot of good luck and 4-digit withdrawals going into my Neteller almost daily, I made a rather large deposit at Bodog to play some blackjack. If I bet small I could sometimes win but as soon I bet big - $100, $200 or $500 - I always lost, without fail.

I have a hard time believing that RTG blackjack is 100% random and fair. It feels like the server has made the win/push/lose decision before any cards are dealt, and then it deals cards to fulfill that decision. All too often you're dealt 12-20 and the dealer has a 6 showing, so you stand. Well lo an behold, YET AGAIN he's got a 4 or 5 underneath and a 10 on the way.

And it's not just Bodog where I experienced this, it's all RTG's. Although I think Bodog is right up there with the Virtual Group and you made a good choice by dropping them.

For the record, I have had similar bad luck with MG blackjack, but this is balanced out because I have also had good luck with MG blackjack. With RTG blackjack I have NEVER had ANYTHING but bad "luck".

[Hihohiho0]

I'm through with RTG - period. I know everyone has been saying its been bad lately - for some anyway but for heaven's sake! nothing? I played MG this morning and still have plenty to play with tomorrow - this has NEVER happend at an RTG and I've been giving it a really decent try for the past 2-3 months. No more... unless I get a managers bonus - and then its quits!!