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Old 7th November 2006, 12:16 AM
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RTG random jackpot question

I'm not an experienced slots player, and I would like to ask you a question.

I hit a random jackpot in a RTG casino. After my first deposit I redeemed a sign-up bonus with a 20x-initial-deposit maximum cashout restriction. The jackpot amount is significantly higher than 20x my initial deposit. As far as I understood, my real winning is only the cashout maximum. After the cashout the remaining amount will be void, and it won't be refunded to the Random Jackpot prize pool.

Can you confirm that there's nothing I can do to receive any amount from the casino above 20x my original deposit?
(Side question: Is it fair to the other players who contribute to the jackpot?)
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Old 7th November 2006, 12:24 AM
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Unfortunately there is no way you can withdraw the full amount of the Random Jackpot when you are playing with a bonus with Terms & Conditions you described.

I hit a $7800 Random Jackpot playing on a bonus and was only allowed to withdraw $1000. Now I do not play RTG casinos with a bonus. Since that Random Jackpot I have hit 3 more and been able to withdraw the full amount of my wins. They weren't anywhere near the size of the one I couldn't withdraw but nice!

Best of luck to you!
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Old 7th November 2006, 01:19 AM
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(Side question: Is it fair to the other players who contribute to the jackpot?)
From the way I understand this, this jackpot is individulized by each casino, so the starting pot is created by the casino, not the player. This is why I think they keep the jackpot if a non-eligible player hits it.
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I hit a random jackpot in a RTG casino. After my first deposit I redeemed a sign-up bonus with a 20x-initial-deposit maximum cashout restriction. The jackpot amount is significantly higher than 20x my initial deposit. As far as I understood, my real winning is only the cashout maximum.
This is the other reason to not take bonuses unless you play slots without these jackpots to keep you from crying.
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Can you confirm that there's nothing I can do to receive any amount from the casino above 20x my original deposit?
CONFIRMED...you read the T&C's right? So its a moot point now.
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I feel bad since both of the players hit at my casino.
But to let everyone know. The reason the additional funds from the jackpot are not paid out or refunded to the game is because not every dollar put in the machine comes from real money. As an example if a player takes a 100 deposit and a 100 bonus and deposit it all in the same machine and the machine collects lets say .10 of every 1.00 for the Jack pot it means the Jack pot grew 20.00 (200 x .10) but in all actuallity only 100 of real money was put in machine so the Jack pot should have only gone up 10.00 not 20.00. So if a player with no bonus wins, they get the whole jack pot even though it was inflated by bonus money. So also when a Jack pot is hit and the player does not get it all, it makes up for the ones who hit and get it all. I hope this goes towards explaining Jack pots.
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Old 7th November 2006, 05:24 AM
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You feel bad for not paying out a Random Jackpot At your casino? YEA RIGHT!
Ok, playing devils advocate here...


Why shouldn't he feel bad? The players knew what they were getting into when they took the deposit!
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a sign-up bonus with a 20x-initial-deposit maximum cashout restriction.
Just as they said in their own posting, they get 20x the deposit for any withdrawal. THEY KNEW THIS so what is the issue?

If I chose to deposit and play with a bonus and hit a random jackpot, I would be PISSED at MYSELF knowing full well what the T&C's were...not at the casino or managers.

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So also when a Jack pot is hit and the player does not get it all, it makes up for the ones who hit and get it all.
And this also makes sense since this is the way I understood other RTG casinos do too and the reason I stated that it's up to the individual casinos to seed the pot to start the jackpot with their OWN funds..
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I feel bad since both of the players hit at my casino.
But to let everyone know. The reason the additional funds from the jackpot are not paid out or refunded to the game is because not every dollar put in the machine comes from real money.
You don't have to feel bad. Winning a jackpot is always nice.
The reasons that you described also came to my mind before falling asleep (after posting), and I understand it now.

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If I chose to deposit and play with a bonus and hit a random jackpot, I would be PISSED at MYSELF knowing full well what the T&C's were...not at the casino or managers.
I was aware of the T&C. I'm not angry, and I don't blame the casino nor somebody else. Maybe you understand that it's a bit frustrating to see such a balance in the upper left corner, but that's all.

But as I mentioned in my original post, I hardly played slots before, and I estimated the probability of hitting a random jackpot being much lower. I just wanted to be sure whether I understood the T&C right, before saying goodbye to the remaining amount.
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Can you confirm that there's nothing I can do to receive any amount from the casino above 20x my original deposit?
I don't play RTG's much, but if you keep on playing until your balance gets down to the max withdrawal amount wont you at least earn some decent comp points?
(Points = real $'s! )
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...but then the comp points have T&Cs too. I was amazed to learn that recently.

I feel worse than you do about your not paying out that Random Jackpot I won. LOL... Since winning that RJ I have won 3 more. Got to cash everyone of them out since I don't play with a bonus after missing out on $6800.00. It was an expensive learning experience. Never got one that big though
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Agreed it was clearly in the conditions etc, so he shouldn't get paid - but the whole thing sucks, and the reason RTG is completely off my places to play list. Total utter nonsense terms and conditions like this just aren't worth the hassle. It's another example of casino's unfairly stacking the odds in their favour. As if the 5%+ edge on slots isn't enough?.. Dreadful.
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