What if

**Renegade** · 14th June 2006, 11:34 PM

Hi all,

I was just wondering about something.

What if a legit casino required players to be verified BEFORE they made a deposit.

Would a casino like this be more legit in players eyes and have more trust overall then what the current casinos hold now???

Would players be more inclined to play at this casino then at others???

**Renegade** · 15th June 2006, 10:39 AM

well, since there are no answers I must assume the answer is no.

So I don't understand what all the bitching is about.

**CasinoForumu** · 15th June 2006, 01:05 PM

If a casino required players to be verified before they made a deposit,most of people dont play there and find another casino.

It will be very good to verified before playing.

But all casinos must start to do this.

**KasinoKing** · 15th June 2006, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by Renegade

Hi all,
I was just wondering about something.
What if a legit casino required players to be verified BEFORE they made a deposit.
Would a casino like this be more legit in players eyes and have more trust overall then what the current casinos hold now???
Would players be more inclined to play at this casino then at others???

It depends on what exactly you mean by 'verified'

If you mean checking the player to make sure he is not claiming a bonus he is not entitled to, then yes, they should do it.
But it should only take the software a matter of seconds to verify this before the player makes his deposit.
In my opinion the main reason many casinos don't check this up front is to give them a good excuse to withhold winnings if the player profits. Of course they also get to keep the losses if the player is unlucky. A win-win situation for the casino.

If you mean checking the players is who he says he is, then the casino could do this straight away after the deposit is accepted and reach their decision within an hour.
If there was any cause for concern they should ask for ID etc. immediately. Again, I think most casino's don't do any checks until a withdrawal request is made for the same reason as above.

I think all casino's should honour withdrawals by the same method used to deposit instantly up to say 5x the deposit amount without any questions. (After all, they take our money instantly!) They should only do further checks if there is anything suspicious, the amount is very large, or a different pay-out method is being used.

If all casinos did this they would all gain much more respect & trust from the gambling public.

**lottethedog** · 15th June 2006, 02:35 PM

I think only one casino groups did this once MGM or something in the isle of man. they required id etc before being able to open and play....

they are no longer.....

might have got respect but player will play were its easier

**soflat** · 15th June 2006, 06:04 PM

I prefer places that require no docs. So I would not be more inclined to play at an outfit that requires me to send my personal documents to Costa Rica, Antiqua, etc.

**Renegade** · 15th June 2006, 06:33 PM

I would like to thank all of you for responding to my questions.

The reason I asked was because a friend and myself was thinking about buying another casino, I wanted to try and implement a simple process that would be to verify the player to make sure no fraud was taking place. Then, when a player wins, bang, they get their money with no questions asked.
Well, after reading some of these responses, I've decided to go with a poker room LOL

Again, thank you.
I do agree that the industry needs to show more concern for the players and less concern about the money.
Proving to players that a casino has their interests in mind instead of their bank accounts, would be a step in the right direction IMO.

**vinylweatherman** · 15th June 2006, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by Renegade

Well, after reading some of these responses, I've decided to go with a poker room LOL

This could be harder to police! Unlike a casino, players using bots or colluding directly affects the other players. Now we seem to have poker rooms denying winnings on what appear rather unlikely accusations. Seeing this, I would probably rather stick to a casino. Losing a $100,000 poker payout due to some seemingly far fetched and unproven accusation of cheating would be too stressful. The big poker rooms will probably freeze out the smaller ones anyway, unless you became a portal for one of the big poker networks in the way some of the casinos have, rather than running their own.

**The Watchdog** · 16th June 2006, 12:36 AM

For me its simple

They only reason I would request id is for age verification (unless the customer uses his credit card).

I will request it more if he is trying to deposit more than 500 with the card
or making several deposits.

The best will be for everyone to request id prior allowing a customer to play.

Customers should always have their ID scanned and saved in their hard drive and it will be great if people were taught this manner.

However if an underage person gets online and wins some, all I will do will be to void winnings, refund the deposit and send the little guy an email informing him to be careful regarding wagering online.

**cupojoe** · 21st June 2006, 12:17 PM

hmm TheWatchdog said "However if an underage person gets online and wins some, all I will do will be to void winnings, refund the deposit and send the little guy an email informing him to be careful regarding wagering online"

so what happens if he loses? you didnt say anything about refunding the deposit then. also, someone underage is not allowed to enter into contracts and if you didnt get his id first and stop him from depositing, hes not responsible for the deposit and can dispute it easily.

Also, you are the one that needs to be careful not an underage person as i said above. check id or take the risk of dispute. (although checking id upfront is hard or a hassle to some players who wont play there then)