UK Fruit Machines Discussion

[Simmo!]

Originally Posted by KasinoKing

So what you 'experts' are saying is, there are no ways to exploit the machines these days, and therefore any slim hope I had of ever recovering the £10,000's I've lost on the darned things has flown out the window?

Well thanks a bunch!


At least my money went to a good cause!
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Get down the pier and feel The Force KK


VinylWeatherMan: You skipped my "red" question above? My curiosity is peaked???

[vinylweatherman]

Originally Posted by Simmo!

Get down the pier and feel The Force KK


VinylWeatherMan: You skipped my "red" question above? My curiosity is peaked???

I will answer two here.

KK - There are just as many methods as before, the thing is getting hold of them in the first place, you need to know people, and they will often want a sizeable "bung" (£5000 not unheard of) to tell, you have no way of telling if the investment will pay. Methods only last a matter of weeks once too many players are doing it. Advances in technology have made it easier for operators to spot atypical behaviour, and they know all about these methods.
The "switch off" still works, but is hardly discreet, and you will likely be manhandled off the premises and barred the first atempt (I've seen this happen when someone was seen trying it on internal CCTV).
The best methods are those that involve playing game sequences, as in the "spot the pea" example. The player appears to be doing nothing "odd", and if they ensure they do NOT totally empty the machine they can come back again and again ad nauseum for several months before the operator smells the proverbial rat.

I regularly was able to "do" 3 machines on the motorway that had somehow escaped getting the "patch" until the end of 2004! Even last year, one of these remained!

The latest methods involve compromising the notechangers and confusing them into giving the credits without having taken the relevant currency. This has been the big scam of late, and has received the most attention from the operators.

There is a thin line between "advantage play" and simple theft. Some "players" have been arrested for methods that do not involve actually playing the games, such as fiddling the notechangers, dud coins etc.

[KasinoKing]

Originally Posted by vinylweatherman

The best methods are those that involve playing game sequences, as in the "spot the pea" example. The player appears to be doing nothing "odd", and if they ensure they do NOT totally empty the machine they can come back again and again ad nauseum for several months before the operator smells the proverbial rat.

Could you possibly expain that in English for those who don't speak Fruitish?

What has peeing got to do with winning?

[Simmo!]

Originally Posted by vinylweatherman

I will answer two here.

Okay - you're just teasing me now aren't you VWM?

[vinylweatherman]

The forum, in it's wisdom, ditched my paragraph about the "red". Even using the browser "back" button I was unable to retrieve it!

Red = Invincible mode.

In this mode, any play on the feature trail will end up with at least the jackpot in all but extreme cases. The machine will often indicate that this is a very special feature play by having many of the lighting turn red, from the normal colours which are normally yellow, green or blue based. The lamps may also pulse, or "Flash". Sometimes this is called the "Red Flash".

There is another mode called the "Silent Invincible". Unless you are a "fruitist" you had better leave that one to the experts

Spot the Pea, this was a feature on a machine made by ACE in the early 90's. Due to their third software screw-up in as many years, this feature, while mostly "piss-poor" in the size of prizes it awarded, said prizes were not recorded, so were "free wins". Emptying the machine was possible due to it being non random as well as the wins not being recorded. Eventually the machine became so loose that EVERY SPIN was capable of delivering "spot the pea", and the prizes were then enough. Once the machine was nearly empty, players would start taking all the other features, which were recorded wins, and the machine would tighten enough to not actually empty. It was then refilled by "Mug Punters" (and in some cases the operator!), and could be revisited and done over again.

Since then, there are still such bugs in the games, and once one is found it is a scramble to take it for all it's worth before the patch. Because of the internet, players in the know will often take the machine empty, as the patch could be along by the Monday morning. When the game is popular, the takings can be good. One day, I hope to discover one of these myself, one that no-one really knows, and use it in full over several months. It would make a great trip for me and my van

[Simmo!]

Okay so I'm off to Brighton in a couple of weeks. While my better half ram-raids H&M, I'll be banished to an amusement arcade down on the front, looking for a half decent machine until I'm summonsed to pay the pizza bill.

So which machine's do you reckon I should be looking for? Bearing in mind many of them will be older I guess. I'm happy to "force", but gimme a "red" anyday - lol.

[Alexandre]

And what about the spanish slots designed by Cirsa and Recreativos Franco ?
They look like fruities, they smell like fruities but I think they aren't fruities...I'm not sure.
They have hold and nudge feature and the most recent ones have a double 3 reel, the normal one, and the bonus one which gives the big prizes.
To play the bonus one, you have to collect spins...it's very similar to free spins but you play them on other reels (uper).
Any thoughts ?

[vinylweatherman]

Originally Posted by Simmo!

Okay so I'm off to Brighton in a couple of weeks. While my better half ram-raids H&M, I'll be banished to an amusement arcade down on the front, looking for a half decent machine until I'm summonsed to pay the pizza bill.

So which machine's do you reckon I should be looking for? Bearing in mind many of them will be older I guess. I'm happy to "force", but gimme a "red" anyday - lol.

Of the older games, the easiest to force are the QPS ones of Golden Grid and Cash Adder. These will usually force out for around £65, and the streak is triggered by the Jackpot or top feature. After this it will "play dead" but the next board will come along and will again yield a Jackpot. This machine is one that frequently issues both "Red Flash" and "Silent" invincibles for this second Jackpot Board. If the percentage is high enough, the third board may also give a jackpot.
On other games, forcing more often does not yield the streak, but a single Jackpot, thus no profit is made and the next cycle is needed.

The Barcrest games of Vamp it UP (scroll down on my site to see pic), and the others of the same design will only offer the silent invincible, where the top feature will be given. This can go for as little as £25 or up to £48; however there are quite a few ways to "steal" a Jackpot early on and leave.

You may find that there are now a good many 2p and 10p machines at the seaside due to the updated regulations that require 18+ supervision on the £25 games area. I have seen many family venues simply get rid of the £25 machines and install the less regulated "Children's Fruit Machines" that are limited to £5/£8 Jackpot and can be played freely by children in family entertainment centres such as the seaside. (Oddly enough, the rules limit the Jackpot, but NOT the stake!!!! obviously thrown together by a non-gambler).

[nafanny29]

This thread wouldnt be complete without recalling the fruitie weekend of my life. I was arrested at Knutsford services by the traffic cops, (after emptying all the fruits on every service station along the M6) At Knutsford Services I must have drew the attention of a security guard who called the plod. I had over £4000 on me all in £1 coins. I was grilled, strip searched and my car was literally taken to pieces.

After two YES TWO days they released me without charge and let me get a meal in their canteen. I then proceed to empty their own club machine in their canteen. I will never forget that weekend!!! Priceless!!

[vinylweatherman]

Originally Posted by nafanny29

This thread wouldnt be complete without recalling the fruitie weekend of my life. I was arrested at Knutsford services by the traffic cops, (after emptying all the fruits on every service station along the M6) At Knutsford Services I must have drew the attention of a security guard who called the plod. I had over £4000 on me all in £1 coins. I was grilled, strip searched and my car was literally taken to pieces.

After two YES TWO days they released me without charge and let me get a meal in their canteen. I then proceed to empty their own club machine in their canteen. I will never forget that weekend!!! Priceless!!

Knutsford plods are very suscpicious by nature. I was mugged there in 1996, and relieved of a pot of £1 coins. The plod, upon hearing my take, seemed to want me to tell about my ENTIRE TRIP, even though this was irrelevant up to the point where I first came into contact with the con merchant who set me up at the previous services. They were more interested in finding a drugs related explanation as opposed to the glaringly obvious one that the muggers saw my prowess at the machines and thought up a way to get some of it for themselves.

No doubt they spent 2 days scouring the CCTV footage looking for something to charge you with, as they could not believe that £4000 could be won from simply playing the game.

People with that amout of coinage are usually "rodding" the machines. (A method for forcing the hopper to give out it's contents by mechanical manipulation), defrauding the changers (recent scam), or simply breaking the locks on the cash box.
36 hours is the most you could have been held without charge, they must have been gutted to have had to release you

It is unusual to get caught at a Motorway Services though, unless you are doing something that looks rather shady. You didn't have a big bag with you all the time by any chance, this is a dead giveaway to security as the Motorway "drifters" travel like this, and they often rob the machines when they get the chance (they don't usually have their own transport - another dead giveaway!)