have given up on this site

**scrollock** · 30th May 2006, 10:06 AM

i just want to say before i go, i have logged in here for the first time in a month and seen things are no differerent to what they where before.

when i first started playing casinos i played at cirrus and was ripped off, i then found this site and although i never got my money back (although i didnt PAB about it) i followed CM's list of approved casinos religously and i will say i have never ever got into bother by following it.

however i will say that his list has serious omissions and very serious inclusions (i.e. any playtech), so i will say time for me to give up the bat and wish everyone good luck.

so take care everyone and i wish everyone the best of luck

**Slotster!** · 30th May 2006, 10:35 AM

Hey Scrollock!

What do you feel are the serious omissions? I pretty much exclusively play at 32RED, Roxy Palace or the odd Crypto these days, but I'm so glad I found this site before trying the others in the past! I've fortunately never (really) been ripped off, and I'm sure using here as a starting point is the only reason!

What's interesting for me is that I don't ever really participate in online forums anywhere, yet I find myself increasingly involved in this one due to the level of knowledge and diversity of personalities you find here! All good for the players and the casino's I believe; whilst helping us all to enjoy our (second) favourite pastime with a little more peace of mind.

**Casinomeister** · 30th May 2006, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by scrollock

...however i will say that his list has serious omissions...

If there are omissions, then tell me about them. I know for a fact there are some excellent casinos that are not listed here. Reason? I don't have a marketing team signing these people up, and I don't have the time to do this myself.

There's commitment involved being listed here. And it's up to the casino to approach me if they want to get on board. Simple as that. I meet with the operators, we make philosophical agreements, they join the forum, and we go from there.

As for Playtech, I have three Playtech Groups -and that's about it. You know as well as most everybody else, Playtech and I have not seen things eye to eye, and for about a year I refused to endorse them. But I brought these operators on because I can trust them - simple as that.

Sorry you're feeling bummed out about the place. I thought I was doing a pretty good job, but I know I can't please everyone. Hope you'll choose to still hang around.

**The Watchdog** · 30th May 2006, 10:39 AM

You are so wrong...

Honestly, you might go throug eCogra or Jurisdictions or whatever... I wouldn´t change this site for any other.

I strongly believe that if the Meister endorses a Casino is not because he just took a look to the main site and said ok....

I can guarantee that most of the sites here run a decent business.

As you may know Brian is a human being.. He is no octupus with 100 tentacles or has omnipotent powers to be everywhere at the same time.

I am sure that if you come with a complain from a Casino on his approved list he will make sure to check what is happening and that the casino will also come forward with a proffesional explanation on the issue.

I am new to the forum, but not new to the site...

The best example of how good this site is might be the incident with Mummysgold. Darren was always available making his best to answer everyones´questions and help everyone with his complains. As you may see its still is a casino accredited by the meister since I am sure he knows they run a good business.

From your thread all I can say is that you have 0 experience or very little knowledge on how the industry works.

Regarding Playtech.. I couldn´t agree with you more... Awesome software, however some of the people who run their sites are not much trust worhty.

I hope that from your post you are excluding the Main Street Group (Slots.com, Vegascasinoonline.com, Twinacescasino.com, etc), and Kiwi Casino which are the Playtech Casinos acredited by the Meister. Alll of them I can guarantee run a fine and professional operation. Race track I don´t know much about them...

**The Watchdog** · 30th May 2006, 10:41 AM

This is going to be a popular thread..jejeje

While writing my post, the Meister and Slotser posted first when I thought I will be the one posting first...

I am expecting to see more posts from the guy starting this thread...

**chuchu59** · 30th May 2006, 10:59 AM

Scrollock,

Why should there be huge differences in just a month's time. Do you mean that you would like to see casinos that were accredited a month ago being rogued and vice versa. I think players want stability. If a casino is viewed as trustworthy one day and is a rogue the next day, everything will be thrown into disarray. I am sorry to hear that you have given up on this site and I hope that you have something even better. As for me, this site is simply awesome and I would recommend it to players who dont have a clue about online gaming.

BTW, what were the serious 'omissions' and 'inclusions'?

**lydia** · 30th May 2006, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by chuchu59

this site is simply awesome and I would recommend it to players who dont have a clue about online gaming.

Totally agree!

**maxlevine** · 30th May 2006, 11:33 AM

Whether you approve the recommended list or not doesn't make this site and forum less valuable. Without this site, you gotta admit you'd be less informed.

There is one group of casinos accredited by casinomeister I would have had a hard time with if I didn't know this site. Handled the matter through communication with the casino rep here as their perceived intention was to delay the proceedings.

I couldn't personally recommend more than 10 casinos and the only one I would say is missing on the list is Harrods. But I'd rather see a long list on casinomeister accredited casinos as I know Bryan and the posters would be able to help when a problem occurs; plus, the casino operator is more likely to listen. PMing a casino rep is often much more efficient than emailing their customer service.

If anything, you can express your opinion freely as long as you follow the rules. And if you end up with Spear, Jetset or Bryan opposing you, don't worry; you'll have 20 posters on your side

Max

**Casinomeister** · 30th May 2006, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by maxlevine

Whether you approve the recommended list or not doesn't make this site and forum less valuable. Without this site, you gotta admit you'd be less informed...

Lest we forget, this site is about providing information - not marketing. There is a hefty pupulation that never make it to the forum; they just visit the rest of the site reading the newsletter or news or whatever.

google "online casinos", and I'm like on page 53. google "online casino information" and I'm in the top three results.

**spearmaster** · 30th May 2006, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by maxlevine

If anything, you can express your opinion freely as long as you follow the rules. And if you end up with Spear, Jetset or Bryan opposing you, don't worry; you'll have 20 posters on your side

LMAO... very good sales point

scrollock, whatever you choose to do, best of luck. I hope you'll come back and visit us every now and then if you do choose to leave for an extended period of time.