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Old 20th March 2006, 07:32 PM
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If I had the clout, i'd be smacking backsides. It is a pity you don't have the clout either Meister.

The IGC logo is on the GP website.
The Khanawacky logo is on the website.
The Khanawhack are in bed with ecogra.
G4 are in bed with ecogra.

A tangled web of backscratching regardless what anyone thinks. I am supposed to respect this crowd for what they aim to achieve? GPalace are embarrassing all concerned along the line.

I'd happily rogue the lot of them, problem is G4 are involved with Gordon House. Gordon House are doing good work for problem gamblers. Ecogra are a decent dispute resolution service.

A sideswipe at everyone involved regardless.
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The fact is Golden Palace by pulling these kind of stunts are actually arming those that advocate the US Gambling Prohibition Act currently being discussed.

Golden Palace are bad for the egaming industry full stop IMO. Those that play there, should seriously think twice and vote with their feet/keyboards/mouse button. Otherwise by playing at Golden Palace, it could be construed that you condone the practice of online casinos buying the rights to name babies amongst other dubious stunts they have pulled. So much for Golden Palace being an advocate of responsible gambling when they pay for babies to be named after their domain name.
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Doing some cursory reading prior to firing off my own email, I came across this gem.

http://www.kahnawake.com/gamingcommission/ - click the "about us" link.

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The Commission is empowered to regulate and control gaming and gaming related activities conducted within and from the Mohawk Territory of Kahnawake in accordance with the highest principles of honesty and integrity.
LMFAO.

I really love these people. They think they can say anything, do anything, and noone will bat an eyelid. They absolutely do regard everyone as total certified idiots. I suppose sitting in an independent Indian reservation does a lot to create this mentality.

What mightn't be a bad idea would be to contact the reputable operations that are "licensed" by Kahnawake - VPL, Jackpot factory etc - and lobby them to press them on this issue. They won't listen to anyone here, but they might pay attention to their customers.
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For reference, here's the link to the original Kahnawake "reprimand":

http://www.kahnawake.com/gamingcommi...ory.asp?show=3

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In the past two weeks, the Kahnawake Gaming Commission (KGC) has received numerous complaints concerning an incident at the Olympic Games in Athens involving a person who ‘streaked’ an event displaying the name of one of the KGC’s permit holders: Golden Palace.

The KGC did not approve or condone the incident in question and does not approve or condone this type of ‘marketing’ by its permit holders.

After investigating the Athens incident and meeting with representatives of Golden Palace, the KGC has directed that:

1. Golden Palace will not use, promote, encourage or fund this type of ‘marketing’ ever again, and

2. Given the seriousness of the incident and the negative effect it has had on the community’s reputation, Golden Palace will make a substantial donation to Kahnawake organizations to be identified by the Mohawk Council of Kahnawake.

The KGC is satisfied with Golden Palace’s cooperation throughout and considers the matter closed.

For further information, contact the Kahnawake Gaming Commission at 450-635-1076.

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...by playing at Golden Palace, it could be construed that you condone the practice of online casinos buying the rights to name babies amongst other dubious stunts they have pulled.
I happily took GPs money and will do it again if they offer it. That doesn't mean I condone everything they do.

Anyways, I have no problem with streakers at the Olympics or any other sporting event. But I would prefer they have some hot babe do it next time. A guy with a chicken doesn't put across a positive image of GP.

This is a Kahnawake problem. They lose credibility when they state that they are going to regulate certain actions of a casino then do not follow thru.
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If I was a casino operator licensed in this jurisdiction, I'd be totally pissed off.
How do you think eCOGRA feel about it?

http://www.ecogra.org/Press/Release.asp?ReleaseID=35

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The Kahnawá:ke Gaming Commission was established and empowered in 1996 under the Kahnawá:ke Gaming Law. The Commission’s Regulations concerning Interactive Gaming were promulgated in July 1999 and are generally accepted as a model for regulating the global online gaming industry.
Whoa, model for the online gambling industry? Tell Bobby Goodlatte, I bet that'd be music to his ears.

This was something on the agenda to discuss with AB when I met him the other day, but time wasn't permitting.
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I used to think the same thing -- but not anymore. It's really a shame since there are some fine casinos that are located there.
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Really very good indeed Kahnawake entry in the latest web cast:

I particularly liked the comment "...if you're acting as a regulator, at least APPEAR to be doing your job" - which calls the whole thing exactly for what it is as far as I'm concerned - as well as the the possible reasons you suggest as to why Golden Palace have such apparent pull with our favourite tomahawk-toting tribesmen.

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I agree with Caruso. It is a shame that Kahnawake have their head in the sand as it were concerning Golden Palace's latest stunt. I guess they make too much money so are beyond being pulled back into line. This would be okay, if Golden Palace's actions didn't affect the entire industry, which unfortunately they do.
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