Probabilities

[Zoozie]

Sorry, Zoozie, I tried to put the combinations together for Loaded the same way I did Thunderstruck but it just isn't working. Maybe because it has more lines? I have the combinations if anyone else wants to try. Watched that damn slot for at least 10 hours to get them

Maybe you can post the result(pieces) of your work here? I might give it a try by using screenshots while spinning, this way you can sometimes see 4 symbols that seems to be reliable (I checked thunderstruck against your reels).

[cjb]

here's what I used for symbols..W=wild,S=scatter,D=lady with long dark hair,P=pink hat lady,B=blond lady,O=guy with orange,G=guy with green hat,H=house,Y=yacht,C=car,M=music sign,R=record player.
reel 1=BYO,BMO,BMH,CHR,CBY,CGY,CPH,DMO,GMP,GCB,GYR,HSR, HYW,HRG,MHY,MOC,MPY,OCH,OCP,OCG,PYH,PHS,RDM,RGM,RB M,RGC,SRB,SRD,YWR,YRB,YHS,YOC,WRG.
reel2=BRO,BMG,BCG,CBR,CHD,CPY,CGY,DCP,DMO,DSR,GCH, GYH,GYD,GCB,HWY,HDS,HMB,MOR,MBC,MGC,MGY,ORH,ORG,OM G,RGC,RBM,ROM,RHM,PMO,PYO,SRB,YOR,YDC,YPM,YHW,WYP.
reel3=BMH,BYR,COY,CGY,CWY,COR,DCW,DCO,HCG,HMB,HCD, HCO,HPR,GHP,GYD,GMO,MOS,MHC,MBY,MOS,OYG,OSR,ORH,PM H,PRB,RGM,RBM,RHM,SRP,YRG,YDC,YGH,WYD.
reel4=BYM,BCO,BGR,COR,CHY,CDM,CWY,DHC,DMO,GCD,GYM, GYD,HYB,HPM,HMG,HCW,MGY,MOR,MPR,MBR,ORH,ORB,PRS,PM B,RBY,RSC,RGC,RHM,SCH,YDH,YBC,YHP,YMP,WYH.
I didn't finish reel 5 but will if you get anywhere with the rest of these. By the way, what do you all mean when you say a slot is "weighted"?

[soflat]

Very interesting thread and results.

So which games would you expect to have payouts over 96% (since that is the average reported by the auditors)? Wouldn't it be the most popular ones, which are also the newest?

[Zoozie]

here's what I used for symbols..W=wild,S=scatter,D=lady with long dark hair,P=pink hat lady,B=blond lady,O=guy with orange,G=guy with green hat,H=house,Y=yacht,C=car,M=music sign,R=record player.
reel 1=BYO,BMO,BMH,CHR,CBY,CGY,CPH,DMO,GMP,GCB,GYR,HSR, HYW,HRG,MHY,MOC,MPY,OCH,OCP,OCG,PYH,PHS,RDM,RGM,RB M,RGC,SRB,SRD,YWR,YRB,YHS,YOC,WRG.
reel2=BRO,BMG,BCG,CBR,CHD,CPY,CGY,DCP,DMO,DSR,GCH, GYH,GYD,GCB,HWY,HDS,HMB,MOR,MBC,MGC,MGY,ORH,ORG,OM G,RGC,RBM,ROM,RHM,PMO,PYO,SRB,YOR,YDC,YPM,YHW,WYP.
reel3=BMH,BYR,COY,CGY,CWY,COR,DCW,DCO,HCG,HMB,HCD, HCO,HPR,GHP,GYD,GMO,MOS,MHC,MBY,MOS,OYG,OSR,ORH,PM H,PRB,RGM,RBM,RHM,SRP,YRG,YDC,YGH,WYD.
reel4=BYM,BCO,BGR,COR,CHY,CDM,CWY,DHC,DMO,GCD,GYM, GYD,HYB,HPM,HMG,HCW,MGY,MOR,MPR,MBR,ORH,ORB,PRS,PM B,RBY,RSC,RGC,RHM,SCH,YDH,YBC,YHP,YMP,WYH.
I didn't finish reel 5 but will if you get anywhere with the rest of these. By the way, what do you all mean when you say a slot is "weighted"?

I tried to crack the reels from your info. But I ran into problems trying to crack reel 1 and reel 2 and started checking your data.

On reel 1 I have problems with:BMO(I found it too) and BMH(I found it too), this should mean there would be 2 combinations with xBM and yBM, but you have only found RBM (I found it too). I am still looking for the last one (could it be that RBM occours twice on the reel?)

BMO


On reel 2 you miss: GBD, BDC (just want I found so far)
And you write DMO is on reel 2, I cant find yet, actually the sequence DM cannot be found. I think you mean BMO instead



If I can get the correct 3-symbols combinations on a reel, I think I can crack it.

Zoozie

[Zoozie]

YAY!

Reel 1 of 'Loaded' cracked.

The problem is 3 of the 3-symbol combinations occour twice.
I have used () around those that I have 'made up'. But when solving the
puzzle it is obvious that this is the only solution, so this is how the reel must be.

Chaining the ends give 3 fragments:
OCG-CGY-GYR-YRB-(RBM)-BMH-MHY-HYW-YWR-WRG-RGM-GMP-MPY-PYH-YHS-HSR-SRB-RBM-BMO-MOC
OCH-CHR-HRG-RGC-GCB-CBY-BYO-YOC
OCP-CPH-PHS-(HSR)-SRD-RDM-DMO-(MOC)

So how do you fit these fragments together as their are 2 solutions. Luckly
it is not matter at all! Max win/payback% will still be excacly the same(scream now if you disagree, I can prove this if needed).
So the reel is(have to put it on 3 lines):
OCG-CGY-GYR-YRB-(RBM)-BMH-MHY-HYW-YWR-WRG-RGM-GMP-MPY-PYH-YHS-HSR-SRB-
RBM-BMO-MOC-OCH-CHR-HRG-RGC-GCB-CBY-BYO-YOC-OCP-CPH-PHS-(HSR)-SRD-
RDM-DMO-(MOC)-(back to start)

which short is: CGYRBMHYWRGMPYHSRBMOCHRGCBYOCPHSRDMO

So reel 1 has 35 symbols. As I posted above there is an error with data for
reel 2 atm. I will try do reel3,4,5 later.

Now I understand how time consuming this is, as CJB complained about

But it would be a good idea if someone else try to solve the puzzle for
reel 1 as I believe the data posted by CJB is correct. I almost sure they
get excacly the same result I do, and will be a good test. (and is a fun puzzle)

Zoozie

[cjb]

Wow, Zoozie, that's great!!! I thought you would need to use some of the combinations twice. I tried that and wasn't sure if it would be correct but if you say it will work, I believe you. TS was a snap compared to this one.

[Zoozie]

I just found RPM on reel 3.And I do not believe HCD is there (probably you misread it instead of HCO from your notes)

Using this the solutions seems to be. (So I think reel 3 is cracked now).

DCW-CWY-WYD-YDC-DCO-COR-ORH-RHM-HMB-MBY-BYR-YRG-RGM-GMO-
MOS-OSR-SRP-*RPM-PMH-(MHC)-HCO-COY-OYG-YGH-GHP-
HPR-PRB-RBM-BMH-MHC-HCG-CGY-GYD-(YDC)

Short:
CWYDCORHMBYRGMOSRRPMMHCOYGHPRBMHCGYYD

Again I had to introduce two 3-symbol combinations to occour twice.
(statistical methods which will take a damn long time can show if this actually is true)

[Zoozie]

Reel4:

I have a problem with RGC, dont think it exists or missing a xRG combination.

[cjb]

Now you know why I quit doing it..it was driving me crazy. I think RGC is correct. There is a GCD and I miswrote BGR..it should be BRG. I don't think I'll ever play this slot after all this...

[Zoozie]

BRG found on reel4.. back to cracking...

Edit: problem with BGR. no GRx found. almost sure BGR does not exist
also sure GYM does not exists. (but GYD does)

This gives reel4 as:

ORH-RHM-HMG-MGY-GYD-YDH-DHC-HCW-CWY-WYH-YHP-HPM-PMB-
MBR-BRG-RGC-GCD-CDM-DMO-MOR-ORB-RBY-BYM-YMP-MPR-PRS-
RSC-SCH-CHY-HYB-YBC-BCO-COR

So reel 4 cracked... 2 more to go