Seconds Between Spins On Autoplay

[ngb1959]

Is there a magic number of seconds to use when playing the autospin feature at mg casincs? It ranges from 0 to 1.50 seconds?

Any one have an opinion on this?

Thanks.

Nina

[KasinoKing]

Yes. It depends on how impatient you are!

I personally prefer 0.8 or 1.5 seconds - so I can see the wins!

[amandajm]

Interesting. 0-1.5 seconds eh?

G4 were delighted to join up with that old chestnut - Ecogra. The very same that preside a watchlike brief over many Microgaming casinos.

The fact that the Ecogra sealed casinos do not meet half of the G4 "guidelines", was not a major stumbling block. Can you say Vital?

G4 REALITY CHECKS >>
It is vital that, where a game allows continuos, interactive and rapid gambling without a natural break, there should be mechanisms implemented that help the customer to monitor their spend and amount of time they have played so that they can make concious decisions on where to stop or continue.

As well as a default session limit which will close a game after ONE HOUR of continuos play, the following are also recommended.

a) A clearly visible clock which displays the time within the players time zone should be visible on the screen at all times.

b) The currency unit of the amount wagered should be clearly displayed on the games screen as well as the denomination of each credit.

Counters should be used to inform the player of the time they have been playing. This could be a display that pops up every 30 minutes and should be clearly visible to the player.

Where a game allows the player to choose different amounts per credit, this option should involve having to come out of the game in order to change credit size. This will help to avoid the possibility of customers impulsively increasing their stakes in order to chase losses.

It should be possible for the customer to place a limit on the amount that they can bet/play for a specified period. If the player would like to increase this limit the operator has to be contacted. It must take at least seven days to effect this increase after the notice was sent. If the customer would like to decrease this limit, it will take effect immediately.

No game should be quicker than 3 seconds between plays, even in "turbo" mode.

The operator should seek guidance from the regulator on which games would require the implementation of suitable reality checks.

So much bogus pr claptrap and backpatting going on within this industry, one wonders what on earth the point is with these type of firms. Why am I spotting this stuff first anyhow?

It's about time someone successfully shouted me down too, rather than sigh and hope it all comes out in the wash.

Carry on..

[Macgyver]

Way to turn an innocent question about Autoplay into a backhanded slam against eCogra.

You know, if people don't trust online casinos and their associated owners/groups/software, why give them your business/money/time?

[Casinomeister]

Originally Posted by Macgyver

Way to turn an innocent question about Autoplay into a backhanded slam against eCogra.

You know, if people don't trust online casinos and their associated owners/groups/software, why give them your business/money/time?

Exactly. Another derailment, and it's getting tiresome and annoying. Knock it off amandajm.

[amandajm]

Will do Bryan.

[Slotmachine]

(sorry about continuing the derailment of topic. i swallowed the bait)

As for the G4 recommendations, I think they're all actually pretty good.

For example, folks here have complained about the trend toward coin-based games in MG software. Not only is it annoying, but it's clearly designed to detach the player even further from reality, lose track of how much money they are spending, and play with less discretion = more profit for the casino. OK, casinos are in it for the profit, but there are a lot of problem gamblers out there and casinos should carry some of the responsibility that comes with the business. It doesn't help to say "problem gamblers should not gamble" - that's nonsensical. I think the dollar/euro sign should always be visible. It's a small matter, I know, but for casinos to become respectable businesses, they should pay attention to these things. Gambling and casinos are considered if not degenerate then at least not respectable by a large number of people, maybe by the majority even. If that's to change, casinos will have to change their MO.

I hate slow slots though, gimme 0.0 sec delay any day but then, I'm a self-declared slot junkie - luckily I've got my budget under control, but a lot of folks don't and I don't blame them, I sympathize.

But if (say) 32Red implemented the G4 guidelines, I'd respect the move and would humbly wait 3secs after each spin.....

Cheers,
SM

[KasinoKing]

Originally Posted by amandajm

"Counters should be used to inform the player of the time they have been playing. This could be a display that pops up every 30 minutes and should be clearly visible to the player.

Where a game allows the player to choose different amounts per credit, this option should involve having to come out of the game in order to change credit size. This will help to avoid the possibility of customers impulsively increasing their stakes in order to chase losses."

The only casino's where I've see these two rules implemented are Wagerworks ones.
They have a pop-up every hour to tell you how long you've been playing, and you have to re-launch the flash window to change coin size.

I'm not really sure if these measures in any way help the 'problem gambler' - but I don't see them as a big turn-off.

I do think that most software's slots are able to be played too fast, but I can understand why some players would want this. Personally I rarely use 'quick spin' or go below 0.8 secs - although I do find myself gradually doing it more these days than I used to. (I blame Simmo's slot competitions! )

I think the OP's query was intended to ask if the slots payout better at certain spin intervals - to which I personally think the answer is: No.

[vinylweatherman]

As well as the issue over coin based rather than credit based wagering in the newer slots. MG have actually REMOVED the very options from Autoplay that allow players to set a stop loss on how much they are willing to lose before the game halts. This "stop when credits go down/up by" has not been allowed on all the recent releases. It is only possible to set a spin count, and a stop on win greater than. So - if the slot is really cold a few spins could take far more money than the player had thought.
I have made use of the stop loss settings in conjunction with the spin counter in the various tournaments. It allows play to break when a good or bad run has ocurred, and I have to review the game and decide whether to still compete or wait till later.
If eCogra were serious about implementing as much of G4 as is practicable they should require MG to reverse this and give us back the control we used to have over our autoplay sessions. I don't think all of the recommendations will fit the current culture of wager challenge tournaments, it would have a worse effect of encouraging play with far higher stakes to get the throughput in the tournament.
If G4 standards need to be tightened, they should go further and ban this type of "who can wager the most the quickest" type of event and have events similar to the "Slotjunkies" style, or have the prizes based on percentage profit over wager throughput, with an anti-abuse rule allowed to insist on a certain number of games to be played to prevent one single bet counting as 100% profit.

[Slotmachine]

Originally Posted by vinylweatherman

If G4 standards need to be tightened, they should go further and ban this type of "who can wager the most the quickest" type of event and have events similar to the "Slotjunkies" style, or have the prizes based on percentage profit over wager throughput, with an anti-abuse rule allowed to insist on a certain number of games to be played to prevent one single bet counting as 100% profit.

I agree that the wagering "tournaments" are just downright stupid. Whoever wagers most = loses most (usually) = wins $1000 or whatever. Not very appealing. The slotjunkies format is good, and Cherry Casino (CM accredited) has tournaments of similar style, check them out. Even the small wagers count. The prizes are modest though...

Cheers,
SM