Vegas Frontier and FortuneLounge Spam

[mary]

In fact, it would strongly be to Fortune Lounger and Belle Rock's advantage to actively monitor spam levels, because the quickest way to stop spam being sent as marketing efforts on their behalf is to STOP SIGNING THE CHECKS.

Considering that they want to cut back on their affiliate expenses, it's odd that they don't save themselves some money by justifiably stiffing the affiliates who break their contract terms and devalue their brand name.

Allowing some affiliates to spam while cutting others out of the program and keeping the players also brings up another of my favorite points: the problem of the level playing field. Affiliate Casino Prophet is being given an unfair market advantage over all the affliliates who don't spam.

[spearmaster]

What GreedyGirl said.

I threw out an ENTIRE subscription list because it had transpired that not all of the people on the list were double-opt-in. This was done by REQUEST, not because I was forced to throw out that list.

To say that I am riled up is a big, big understatement. And VP, I would urge you to be a little bit more active and put your foot down very hard rather than come up with what I consider to be very feeble responses by comparison to other issues you have handled.

This is a battle that only YOU will lose, because either we players (or "honest" webmasters) will simply just stop playing - and forward all emails to Spamcop - or you do the right thing for the sake of the players (or "honest" webmasters) and refuse to do any further business with this publisher who is known to EVERYONE - but you - as a spammer.

Honoring unsubscribe requests is about the worst possible avenue you can take with this one because all he has to do is pay you lip service like he has done with many other operators in the past - and you will let him go scot-free.

Not a wise move in my opinion. And if you have no influence over this - then by all means call the attention of the people who ARE responsible for this, and do it with a loud voice AND a big stick.

[dominique]

STOP SIGNING THE CHECKS.

Allowing some affiliates to spam while cutting others out of the program and keeping the players also brings up another of my favorite points: the problem of the level playing field.

Yep.

And stopping the spamming is a very easy thing to do. No one will spam on your behalf if you don't pay for it. It's not like you are a victim in this.

The other problem here is that you hurt yourself with this. With all the other recent problems just having barely been smoothed over, being knocked off line due to spamming yet another time is likely to hurt you big time.

Affiliates would like things to get back to normal and work with a reliable program that has no service interruptions and can be counted on to be fair.

Lots of people have given you a second chance, and you can see by the threads at CAP about the spam that affiliates feel the same way about it as players do. Is it really profitable enough to take all this risk?

[mary]

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[mary]

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[mary]

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[mary]

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[mary]

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[mary]

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[Casinomeister]

Hey Fortune Lounge,

As you have probably noted, these spam mails are coming form one source - and we know who it is.

Somebody needs to do something about this today by close of business. Thanks!