Vegas Frontier and FortuneLounge Spam

[Casinomeister]

As I mentioned before, anyone who is receiving these spam mails unwarrantedly needs to contact either me, Andrew Beveridge at eCOGRA andrew@ecogra.org, or both.

[sirius]

As I mentioned before, anyone who is receiving these spam mails unwarrantedly needs to contact either me, Andrew Beveridge at eCOGRA andrew@ecogra.org, or both.

I thought everyone was receiving these emails. I have them on both email accounts I use for casinos.

[mary]

I'm experimenting with the "unsubscribe" function. It works differently for the three different Bercovitz spams on behalf of Fortune lounge casinos I've received, which is strange.

*One said I'd get an automatically generated email with a link I'd have to click; it never came.

*One said I'd get an automatically generated email with a link I'd have to click; said email came; clicked said link; got confirmation page; we'll see if the spam for that casino stops.

*One just gave me confirmation page that said the spam would stop in 72 hours. We'll see if spam for that casino stops.

I have to go through this circus for every single one of Fortune Lounge's casinos and of course the possibility exists that Bercovitz will just send me more spam for other casinos of other groups that don't even offer the pretence of avoiding spam. I will keep you all posted if that is the case.

I urge players and webmasters who have been getting this spam and want it to stop to notify Bryan and ECOGRA. If you don't complain, nothing will be done. Don't forward the spam itself; it may be caught in spam filters. Just send an email with the clear statement "I want no more marketing email from Slickstreet Marketing/Shaun Bercovitz/casinoprophet.com and all affiliated sites" and include all the email addresses you want shielded.

You guys know the drill. Power in numbers.

[inthedesert]

If you don't complain, nothing will be done.

We are complaining enough as it is now. Fortune Lounge sees all of this and should stop it hands down. There is no excuse for this. It is unsolictied spam. I never subscribed to any of this ever. I shouldn't have to click links, wait for confirmation emails, and jump through some circus to make it stop. Bryan shouldn't even have to be involved in this. FL should see this and put a stop to it instantly. They are wasting my time, his, and ecorga with all this nonsense. They need to get in here and deal with this on their own.

The unsubscribe feature doesn't work. I know this. I am now getting new spam. So what is next? I send my email addresess to someone so I can be manually removed? I don't find it as acceptable. If I can't unsubscribe and I am getting new spam, then it's only going to continue.

I look to the future with these things. If FL doesn't stop this completely then what message are they sending to other spammers out there. That it's acceptable to spam for them (FL) without penalty? I will just get new spam soon from another person because they know FL will allow it to happen. I will get off this list and be on another.

[spearmaster]

We are complaining enough as it is now. Fortune Lounge sees all of this and should stop it hands down. There is no excuse for this. It is unsolictied spam. I never subscribed to any of this ever. I shouldn't have to click links, wait for confirmation emails, and jump through some circus to make it stop. Bryan shouldn't even have to be involved in this. FL should see this and put a stop to it instantly. They are wasting my time, his, and ecorga with all this nonsense. They need to get in here and deal with this on their own.

The unsubscribe feature doesn't work. I know this. I am now getting new spam. So what is next? I send my email addresess to someone so I can be manually removed? I don't find it as acceptable. If I can't unsubscribe and I am getting new spam, then it's only going to continue.

I look to the future with these things. If FL doesn't stop this completely then what message are they sending to other spammers out there. That it's acceptable to spam for them (FL) without penalty? I will just get new spam soon from another person because they know FL will allow it to happen. I will get off this list and be on another.

While I fully agree with and support your sentiment, I believe that eCOGRA requires more information in order to provide concrete evidence, as well as to measure the scale of the spam mailings. I also haven't forwarded any emails to eCOGRA yet - but all future emails will be forwarded.

[jetset]

Spear and Mary are right - one of the *rationalisations* that FL is using is that there have only been two complaints.

Whilst I empathise completely with inthedesert's sentiments above, the message needs to get more specific than forum postings to get responsible groups to pressure FL into stopping this flood of unwanted spam.

I would therefore join my voice to Mary and Spear and urge all players being subjected to unwanted spam to email in complaints to Bryan and eCOGRA. Here are the email addresses you can use:

bryan@casinomeister.com

andrew@ecogra.org

[dominique]

You want us to forward all that junk or file a formal complaint?

[inthedesert]

I have already contacted Andrew and will see what road that will take. I will see if Andrew wants them forwarded over to him. I don't know what Bryan's position is on forwarding emails. I do get quite a few here and there. I can shoot off just the email addresses if need be or whatever is required.

I am not trying to detour anyone from going down the right path on this. I just don't want to be "unsubscribed" and would rather Fortune Lounge stop it completely for the reasons I already stated. To "unsubscribe" is a temporary fix for what will be in the end a bigger problem.

I will do my part on this though, and try to help as suggested

[mary]

I don't think forwarding the spam itself is a good idea. We did that already, and spam filters killed it. I don't want to see more "I sent it" "I didn't get it" "I did too send it" "Well I didn't get it send it again" "You're a moron" exchanges.

Just email your request, maybe the subject line,return address and date to identify the specific spam, and the email addresses you want off the list.

[jetset]

I think it may also be helpful to include how many FL spam messages you have been bombarded with (assuming you did not request same) in the past few weeks - that will help to assess the magnitude of the problem.