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[mary]

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[spearmaster]

Spear, I wasn't thinking about using AOL's spam filters -- I do that already and these peeps just change their email addy slightly and the spam continues to pour into my mailbox. What I am thinking -- and if enough complaints are received AOL will act on it -- is to have AOL investigate the emails going through their system and (1) locate the identity of the spammer; (2) tell them to stop; and (3) if they don't stop, AOL will file suit. AOL successfully sued a spammer earlier (this year?) and cleaned his clock. At any rate, this is much more than I can do.

It's not the spam filters in the mail software that I am talking about - it's AOL's own discretionary method of banning whoever they feel like, regardless of whether you have spam filtering on or not. They have no clue how to investigate a spam complaint properly - so they block entire IPs and blocks of IPs instead to stop one spammer, and in the process block lots of other legitimate mail senders - even personal email between family members.

Take my word for it. AOL is completely useless at spam blocking. I can't begin to tell you how many times Got2Bet has been blocked, despite the fact that ALL newsletter subscriptions are double-opt in and it is absolutely impossible to wrongly add a name to the mail list.

[jetset]

This nonsense has been going on for way too long - what is needed is more direct action against these "marketers" by FL and less beating around the bush with intermediaries like FA and Slick Street.

[suzecat]

This nonsense has been going on for way too long - what is needed is more direct action against these "marketers" by FL and less beating around the bush with intermediaries like FA and Slick Street.

Perhaps I am nothing but a blonde gnat, so I have neither received nor seen proof that FA or Slickstreet IS doing anything to address the problem. I am however still getting their marketers' spam, even after deploying the useless unsubscribe feature about three dozen times.

Spear, I read you loud and clear. At this point, I am willing to risk emails from my Aunt Bessie if only the spam would stop.

[mary]

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[mary]

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Subject: 10 offers to drive you mad

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[mary]

From: "your account" <berry@123rickey.com>
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[Casinomeister]

Hi Mary,

I see this one is dated Tuesday 18 October. I hope that from this point on - today being the 20th, that all spam mails will cease.

Hi to all,

I've made it clear to Fortune Lounge that running this campaign is unacceptable, and that the spam machine needs to be shut off. They were removed from Casinomeister - and they need to take this very seriously. I hate to see a lot of hard work go down the tubes because of some stupid decisions on their part. I said I would be willing to take them on once this has been cleared up. I hope this is something I won't have to reconsider.

[spearmaster]

Spear, I read you loud and clear. At this point, I am willing to risk emails from my Aunt Bessie if only the spam would stop.

LOL... to be dead honest, I wouldn't be surprised if these guys managed to get themselves on AOL's whitelist just in case... unless Meister knows something I don't, I wouldn't bet on the spam stopping any time soon

[suzecat]

LOL... to be dead honest, I wouldn't be surprised if these guys managed to get themselves on AOL's whitelist just in case... unless Meister knows something I don't, I wouldn't bet on the spam stopping any time soon

To delve further, I recall a law passed in the US called the "Can Spam Act" or some such. Spam is a very serious problem that individual companies can ill afford to ignore; to do so is perilous to continued business in/with the US and its consumers.

What's it gonna take to get their attention?