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Just an update that the software provider has been in touch with me, and they are still investigating this fully.
Any news?
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Has IGlobalMedia published the result of their investigation?
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I want to remind everyone here that IGlobalMedia is still a member of the Interactive Gaming Council.

If the IGC were a true player watchdog, they would have terminated IGLobalMedia's (formerly Handa-Lopez's) membership a long time ago.

Lack of regulation = A LICENSE TO STEAL.

Also, ECogra is no better than the IGC.

Here's a great Analogy . . .

RTG is to Safebet ... as...

Ecogra is to Microgaming & CON

Andy Beveridge once assured me that casinos from other software developers would be inspected and approved.

This hasn't happened YET.
What a joke these so-called watchdog agencies are!
They are bought and paid for by the industry.

There will never be true regulation of internet casinos unless the U.S. government decides to legalize and tax them.

The only reason the IGC threw out GFED is it was bad for the competing casinos. Hahaha. The IGC could care less about the players.

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Oooooooooooooh, I think that'll go down like a pork butcher at a vegetarian convention here.

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Talk about a blast from the past... welcome back, Dave

Re: eCOGRA, have you noticed that CON and Microgaming are two separate entities and that eCOGRA has its own offices and staff, whereas RTG ran their OWN regulatory scheme out of their OWN offices with their OWN staff?

I agree with you that there should be more manufacturers - unfortunately, this is a big issue which cannot easily be resolved without the manufacturers themselves actively working to make this a possibility. But this is still a distinct possibility and I'm sure you will see some positive developments soon.
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Welcome back Dave_r - long time no see/post.

I agree - there are problems - the US government is way way out of touch with what needs to happen - I do not see online casinos being regulated in the US - probably never. Europe is much more progressive in these matters. Hell, women can go topless at the beach here and no one cares. Regulation WILL happen in Europe way before the US gets off its lazy agenda filled ass.

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RTG is to Safebet ... as...
...Ecogra is to Microgaming & CON

Andy Beveridge once assured me that casinos from other software developers would be inspected and approved.

This hasn't happened YET.
Sorry dude, can't disagree with you more here. One thing to bear in mind is that the review/inspection process is time consuming, sometimes taking up to a year. I know of another group that is in the last stages of accreditation - and they have nothing to do with the other brands. If I didn't believe in them, I wouldn't be backing them up the way I do.

But let us not digress - iGlobal is the focus point here. Ted and I met with the iGlobal folks in January at the ICE and spent a good hour going over what needs to happen to clear some matters up. I am a little surprised that nearly two months have gone by, and there have been no follow ups. I guess it's time to revisit this issue.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
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I saw an interview with Beveridge up at Poker News.com a few days ago in which he identified the Ongame-Poker Room company - a totally different software and a major *player* in the online poker sector - as in the final stages of Seal accreditation.

MGS and CON casinos probably account for the majority of online casino business.

How many different softwares have to be on board before you regard this initiative as credible, Dave?
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This reminds me of the good ole' days!!

I'm baaaack ... if only just for a couple days just to say hi to everyone, especially the Meister who has turned out to be a huge force for positive developments in this industry.

Welp, like I said a long time ago when Ecogra was first created, I strongly believe it is a shill for Microgaming, and all orders end up coming from Martin & Anthony Moshal. The office may be elsewhere, but it is run by MGS, just as INFINIA (now under a different name) is run by MGS. Remember a long time ago, when I came up with enough evidence to show that Infinia was run right out MGS's Isle of Man offices. What a joke. The phone # was the same as that of MGS. The funniest thing was Spearmaster's comment that MGS was "renting out it's office space." I got a good kick out of that. Anyway, Bryan we'll have to agree to disagree on this issue.

As far as IglobalMedia, I really hoped and prayed that this zebra could change its stripes. It seems that they are up to thier old tricks. Only they now realize that in order to be competative, they need to pay instantly.

All IGM sites should be boycotted INCLUDING PARTYPOKER. If they can cheat at thier casinos, whose to say they can't be cheating in thier poker room. Perhaps they are inventing phony players (robots) to steal peoples money.

As for Spear and Jetset, I believe both of you have become extremely one-sided in your commentary, and you both should take a step back and realize that this is an industry built on greed and corruption, and that no amount of self policing is going to solve the problem. Watchdog sites like Bryan's are a good start in the right direction, but are not the ultimate solution.

True government regulation needs to be implemented by a country that is willing to enforce policies with teeth. If this doesn't happen, the fox will continue to guard the henhouse, and the players will continue to get screwed by dishonest software that turns off royal flushes and/or elimates quads... software that forces in a "cheat mode" when a player doubles his 11 in bj and instead of a picture coming out, a 2 comes instead.

I want to remind everyone that computers can be programmed to do ANYTHING, and the IGlobal situation is just the tip of the iceberg. Trying to prove this is a daunting task, but we should all use common sense.

Save your real gambling for a land based casino. Gamble small online, and flat bet, so you can easily detect for cheating. If you want to play a progression use the following technique:

Casino A : Flat bet $5 per hand
Cainio B : Flay bet $10 per hand
Casino C: $20
Casino D: $40

Always be the same exact amount for every hand at each casino. Let's see if casino "take down" modes are sophisticated enough to defeat this. Chances are NO "take down" mode will ever kick in since software developers don't like to cheat flat bettors since detection is much easier.

After you have 1000 + hands at all casinos, you can immediately figure out your EV, and compare this to your actual results. And there's a lot less chance you'll get screwed.

Ubfortunately, even when I flat bet with 2 playtech sites and the results don't look good at bj.

Sites #1: 1690 hands Down 3.2 SD
Site #2: 3380 hands down 2.6 SD

Really strange results. I was playing the Playtech strategy listed at Wizard of Odds.
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If the IGC were a true player watchdog, they would have terminated IGLobalMedia's (formerly Handa-Lopez's) membership a long time ago.
Welcome back Dave R.

I learned something here today. I did not realize that IGM was Handa-Lopez. OMG! I guess I got into this online gambling thing a little late. But when I first started learning about it, I do remember reading that Handa-Lopez was notorious for crooked software and to be avoided. Now, four years later, I had no idea they changed to IGM at some point.

Can someone shed some more light on THAT? Or point me to a link/thread about it? Thanks.
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I would hardly say I've become one-sided, Dave - if you take a look at my participation in things - even back to 2000 - you will see that I am anything but one-sided.

Let me remind you that I was one of the first (well, actually the first after the announcement made in Bermuda) to take a very pessimistic stance against eCOGRA, and until recently remained solidly on the fence.

After meeting with them, having watched their activity for some time, learning of developments in progress, I am beginning to believe that they could well become a powerful force in the industry.

That does not mean I agree with them 100%, nor does it mean I 100% support them. And certainly, given my past skepticism, I would find it a very big stretch to call this stance one-sided But I do believe they are well-informed and prepared and that they most certainly take every situation seriously.

Have I mellowed? Yeah, okay, I can accept that. But one-sided I have certainly not been, am not currently, and likely will never become.

With regard to Infinia... LOL... if I recall correctly, you are talking about a domain name which may certainly have been registered by the same person doing registrations on behalf of Microgaming. But the office was in London, as was the phone number, and having recently visited Microgaming's new headquarters I can absolutely guarantee that Infinia is not located there. Is there a relationship between them? Most certainly. How close is that relationship? Don't know. But it is definitely not ownership and as far as I know it never has been.

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming... LOL... iglobalmedia USED Handa-Lopez software, they weren't Handa-Lopez that I can recall. And you will also know that neither Meister nor I have ever carried advertising for iglobalmedia casinos, though I do presently carry advertising for Party Poker - and actually turned down the casino advertising they wanted to do.
 

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