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They may also like to look at the fact that when playing multiple tables at Party Poker, if a hand starts at the same time on two tables you get identical hole cards. There is something very wrong with the whole setup over there.
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They may also like to look at the fact that when playing multiple tables at Party Poker, if a hand starts at the same time on two tables you get identical hole cards. There is something very wrong with the whole setup over there.
In all my play at Party Poker I have NEVER seen this. Could you please provide several sets of hand numbers demonstrating this?
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Old 4th January 2005, 02:48 AM
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Okay, sorry, my mistake. It's the flop that is the same if they are dealt simultaneously. I've started playing multiple tables here recently, but others have done so more often. It's quite a hard thing to capture as it happens, but I can send you a link to an image if you want (not my image so don't want to post it here).

The guy who got the screenshot saw it happen "quite often" in that session, but he plays 4 tables simultaneously. If it helps I guess I could ask him to scan back through. If you play multiple tables frequently, perhaps scanning through your logs would satisfy you that two hands where the flops are dealt simultaneously did not have the same flop?
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Old 4th January 2005, 09:51 AM
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Okay, sorry, my mistake. It's the flop that is the same if they are dealt simultaneously. I've started playing multiple tables here recently, but others have done so more often. It's quite a hard thing to capture as it happens, but I can send you a link to an image if you want (not my image so don't want to post it here).

The guy who got the screenshot saw it happen "quite often" in that session, but he plays 4 tables simultaneously. If it helps I guess I could ask him to scan back through. If you play multiple tables frequently, perhaps scanning through your logs would satisfy you that two hands where the flops are dealt simultaneously did not have the same flop?
Wow. Nevermind the Flop. Is the Turn and River the same? Gee, THAT would be handy information to have knowledge of. I'd like to see that link you speak of.
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Been a week since the last update, what's up? Are they too busy with all their mergers to check the software?
Most of these guys are in India. I think their minds are on other things at the moment.
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They may also like to look at the fact that when playing multiple tables at Party Poker, if a hand starts at the same time on two tables you get identical hole cards. There is something very wrong with the whole setup over there.
I have over 200,000 Party Poker and skins hands I have played and are also in my pokertracker, I have never seen this type of pattern or anything with flops, sometimes they may flop same value cards at different tables at same time but if they arent exactly the same suit and value then they are different cards to the RNG. Actually it would be normal if you played 10,000-12,000 hands a week to see the exact same cards flop on two tables at the same time once a week. Is my math off? About 1 in 12,000 to pick the same 3 cards that were picked hand before?
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About 1 in 12,000 to pick the same 3 cards that were picked hand before?
I'm not real good at this stuff but I would say (1/52*1/51*1/50)/(3*2*1)=22100. Same thing as combin(52,3).

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I made a math error is what i did. So its once every 2 weeks for people who play for a living.
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Speaking of being in india, is party just about the ONLY place not running a benefit tourney? Even some of these obscure places are.


Man, I'm starting to sound like I bash party/igm all the time.
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