Omni Casino tricks

[Vesuvio]

All sadly predictable: http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...?t=5870&page=1

Dickens, how is it 'bonus abuse' to meet all the terms and conditions of an offer? The casino offers it hoping (expecting) that the player will lose their deposit before meeting the terms. If instead they manage to get through it surely there's no problem withdrawing? (a 2500wr takes a while, even 'recreational' players might get bored after that) Call it 'bonus hunting', if you like, though it seems Megan didn't even withdraw her deposit after losing the bonus - which is the standard way of upsetting Cryptologic casinos

I've no real complaint if they want to ban all but compulsive gamblers, but not informing the player is unacceptable if they're going to credit the bonus only after wagering.

[KasinoKing]

I totally agree with Dickens.
Megan admitted she just flat-bet blackjack to meet the WR 3 months in a row.
What do you expect the casino to do???
I also totally agree with Omni, and I hope they continue with this policy. The only other option would be to stop giving bonuses altogether, spoiling it for 'proper' gamblers like me.

I take crypto bonuses every month, and often withdraw just after meeting WR. But I play all different games and never 'flat-bet' any of them. I've never had any complaints from the casino's, and I've done 'very nicely, thank you! '

I urge everyone NOT to just flat-bet any game for WR because;
a) It's boring as hell.
b) Your behaviour is only likely to lead to casino's getting tighter & tighter with their bonuses, making it harder for us 'proper' gamblers to maintain the income we have become accustomed to!

So CUT IT OUT!

[cipher]

I totally agree with Dickens.
Megan admitted she just flat-bet blackjack to meet the WR 3 months in a row.
What do you expect the casino to do???
I also totally agree with Omni, and I hope they continue with this policy. The only other option would be to stop giving bonuses altogether, spoiling it for 'proper' gamblers like me.

I take crypto bonuses every month, and often withdraw just after meeting WR. But I play all different games and never 'flat-bet' any of them. I've never had any complaints from the casino's, and I've done 'very nicely, thank you! '

I urge everyone NOT to just flat-bet any game for WR because;
a) It's boring as hell.
b) Your behaviour is only likely to lead to casino's getting tighter & tighter with their bonuses, making it harder for us 'proper' gamblers to maintain the income we have become accustomed to!

So CUT IT OUT!

I couldn't disagree more!!! QUOTE "We would however like to see you become eligible to receive this bonus, this month as well as next. You are, therefore, welcome to deposit and play using those deposited funds. We will continue to monitor your account and when the current pattern has stopped, your account will receive this loyalty bonus.

As always, do continue to enjoy playing at Omni Casino." IN OTHER WORDS, GIVE US ANOTHER CHANCE TO WIN YOUR MONEY BACK AND EVERYTHING WILL BE HONKY DOORY" that's absolute B. S.

[jerseyguy11]

I totally agree with Dickens.
Megan admitted she just flat-bet blackjack to meet the WR 3 months in a row.
What do you expect the casino to do???
I also totally agree with Omni, and I hope they continue with this policy. The only other option would be to stop giving bonuses altogether, spoiling it for 'proper' gamblers like me.

I take crypto bonuses every month, and often withdraw just after meeting WR. But I play all different games and never 'flat-bet' any of them. I've never had any complaints from the casino's, and I've done 'very nicely, thank you! '

I urge everyone NOT to just flat-bet any game for WR because;
a) It's boring as hell.
b) Your behaviour is only likely to lead to casino's getting tighter & tighter with their bonuses, making it harder for us 'proper' gamblers to maintain the income we have become accustomed to!

So CUT IT OUT!

somewhat accurate, but if she met the WR and wasn't notified prior tha she wasnt eligible anymore, then they have to pay that last bonus. its only fair.

but the casino has the right from now on to not give the bonus.

[KasinoKing]

I couldn't disagree more!!! QUOTE "We would however like to see you become eligible to receive this bonus, this month as well as next. You are, therefore, welcome to deposit and play using those deposited funds. We will continue to monitor your account and when the current pattern has stopped, your account will receive this loyalty bonus.

As always, do continue to enjoy playing at Omni Casino." IN OTHER WORDS, GIVE US ANOTHER CHANCE TO WIN YOUR MONEY BACK AND EVERYTHING WILL BE HONKY DOORY" that's absolute B. S.

I'm sorry - but you're the one who is totally wrong!
You & Megan seem to be saying 'This bonus money is already mine by right - how DARE the casino take it off me!'
Now that IS BS!

They are not saying what you said at all - they are just saying (put simply) 'please act like a gambler - take a few risks!'
Why shouldn't they say that? They are taking a HUGE risk by offering these bonuses in the first place.
Where do you think they get all this 'free money' from??
Have they got money-trees out the back???
Jeeeeeeeze!

[DeMango]

Can we move to real problems with casinos? Another blatent bonus whore outed and shut down. There are other ways to be an advantage player, use your brain!

[Dirk Diggler]

Casino King - I think you maybe missing the point. Omni advertised a bonus, that to get you needed to wager a certain amount. The player did this but was then refused the bonus. That is basically the same as a casino removing a bonus from a players account after its given for some bullsh*t reason about the players wagering pattern etc - its basically theft.

The bottom line is the player followed their Terms and Conditions required to get the bonus and Omni refused to give it to them AFTER the event. Now does anyone seriously think that is an acceptable practice for ANY reputable online casino?

I've no problem with any casino excluding whoever they want from promotions - however they SHOULD inform the player prior to them taking part. If they have not done this then they should give the player the bonus.

What Omni should do is give the player the bonus this month (as they hadn't previously informed them they were excluded) - but inform them they are excluded from future promotions. That is the right thing to do.

Allowing them to get away with what they have just done basically gives casinos the right to take bonuses off players whenever they feel like it.

[kangamick]

I have stoped playing at Omni for this very reason. I knew this new bonus system would bring trouble. They should have informed Megan before she started playing that the bonus was not available to her. Kasinoking i think you need help with your gambling buddy, i think you have a problem.

[dickens1298]

All sadly predictable: http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...?t=5870&page=1

Dickens, how is it 'bonus abuse' to meet all the terms and conditions of an offer? The casino offers it hoping (expecting) that the player will lose their deposit before meeting the terms. If instead they manage to get through it surely there's no problem withdrawing? (a 2500wr takes a while, even 'recreational' players might get bored after that) Call it 'bonus hunting', if you like, though it seems Megan didn't even withdraw her deposit after losing the bonus - which is the standard way of upsetting Cryptologic casinos

I've no real complaint if they want to ban all but compulsive gamblers, but not informing the player is unacceptable if they're going to credit the bonus only after wagering.

Just because you meet all the T&Cs of an offer does not disqualify you as a bonus abuser. Omni seems to be affixing the label of "bonus abuser" to Megan because (1) she would immediately withdraw after meeting WR, (2) she flat bet, (3) once meeting WR, she would not play at the casino again that month, (4) her profit was almost entirely the bonus.

Candidly, if every player played like her, the casinos would stop offering bonuses. You might call her a canny player - and I guess she is, since she's taking advantage of a situation - but to fail to see the casino's perspective can only hurt the players in the long run, especially if casinos decide that bonuses are a losing proposition for them.

[dickens1298]

From an Omni perspective, it didn't have many options. If it automatically sent a letter to Megan telling her that she was disqualified from receiving the bonus before this month, she could cry foul and complain that she was going to do things differently, and break the "pattern". They're only true "out" was to have sent an email BEFORE any play this month.

The problem with that scenario is one of logistics. Most online casinos review player patterns once a withdrawal request is submitted. Someone had to make a judgement call - personally I can see their point. And in their T&Cs, Omni DID specify that "bonus abusers" would not be allowed the bonus. So the reality is whether Megan is - in the eyes of the casino - a bonus abuser.

And - in the eyes of the casino - she is. She is playing SOLELY to reach bonus, and has done nothing to disguise her efforts.

From a purely monetary perspective, the casino hasn't "stolen" from her. Her account wasn't locked, funds were not seized, and she was free to keep bonuses from previous months. The casino simply refused to give her this month's bonus.

Casino King - I think you maybe missing the point. Omni advertised a bonus, that to get you needed to wager a certain amount. The player did this but was then refused the bonus. That is basically the same as a casino removing a bonus from a players account after its given for some bullsh*t reason about the players wagering pattern etc - its basically theft.

The bottom line is the player followed their Terms and Conditions required to get the bonus and Omni refused to give it to them AFTER the event. Now does anyone seriously think that is an acceptable practice for ANY reputable online casino?

I've no problem with any casino excluding whoever they want from promotions - however they SHOULD inform the player prior to them taking part. If they have not done this then they should give the player the bonus.

What Omni should do is give the player the bonus this month (as they hadn't previously informed them they were excluded) - but inform them they are excluded from future promotions. That is the right thing to do.

Allowing them to get away with what they have just done basically gives casinos the right to take bonuses off players whenever they feel like it.