New Kid On The Block Has Question?

[StaceyLee]

Hi, I'm new to all this and have just spent the last several weeks researching, researching and researching. I Get It. But have a question and a hypothetical that can't find definitive answers to so if anyone can help I would greatly appreciate your info.

If a system is played e.g. Paroli, Martingale, etc everytime one logs into play will the casino ban user?

Hypothetical: If a player was successful in combining a strategy with a system and consistently won and withdrew $400 per month for say 6-12 months without making a deposit other than initial deposit would casino withhold winnings and/or ban player? (Yeah I know, highly unlikely but I am curious. There must be a handful of players out there that make a comfortable profit and I am curious to know how they get away with it, or if they can get away with it.)

I did email a casino stating I was new to this and asked if I was allowed to play using one of the systems that are touted on the net. They first advised that if it was software I would be deemed to be cheating and the system I was referring to was the Martingale. I asked for further clarification on whether the Martingale was okay and they advised it was not. So how do pro's play and stay?

Thanks everyone and thanks Casinomeister, you were the greatest asset I found during my research.

[mattsgame]

Hi, I'm new to all this and have just spent the last several weeks researching, researching and researching. I Get It. But have a question and a hypothetical that can't find definitive answers to so if anyone can help I would greatly appreciate your info.

If a system is played e.g. Paroli, Martingale, etc everytime one logs into play will the casino ban user?

Hypothetical: If a player was successful in combining a strategy with a system and consistently won and withdrew $400 per month for say 6-12 months without making a deposit other than initial deposit would casino withhold winnings and/or ban player? (Yeah I know, highly unlikely but I am curious. There must be a handful of players out there that make a comfortable profit and I am curious to know how they get away with it, or if they can get away with it.)

I did email a casino stating I was new to this and asked if I was allowed to play using one of the systems that are touted on the net. They first advised that if it was software I would be deemed to be cheating and the system I was referring to was the Martingale. I asked for further clarification on whether the Martingale was okay and they advised it was not. So how do pro's play and stay?

Thanks everyone and thanks Casinomeister, you were the greatest asset I found during my research.

I think no matter what system you use you will not always make a profit anyway :P

Using a Bonus you are more than likely to be found out.. In most casino there is a term like this or a similar variation


55. Abuse includes but not being limited to the following: Any irregular playing patterns e.g. playing at intentional minimum risk - equal, zero margin bets or hedge betting. Claiming a bonus and asking for cash out without a fair amount of play. Making high bets (on the sum of more than 30% of their bonus balance) from your account balance, where that balances is made up of bonus balance. Creating more than one account per person and using these accounts as fraudulent accounts in an attempt to claim our bonuses more than once. Placing high bets (while playing with bonus) in an attempt to generate high balance. Once achieved, changing betting patterns into small bets in order to fulfill wagering requirements and still keep high balance available for cash in (e.g. player places $25 bets and win $5k , then changes to $0.5 bets until wagering requirements achieved).

Of course there are people who use systems and don't ever get spotted. But if it was me i would not risk it.

I'm not to sure about terms if you do not use a bonus sorry. I am more of a slots player.

I'am sure there will be some one on here that can answer your question a little better..

BTW Welcome to the forums. I'm sure you will find a lot of use full information


Good Luck

Matt

[StaceyLee]

Thanks Matt that gives a bit more insight. Much appreciate it and maybe I will get a further update from a roulette player. Cheers.

[liquuid_fusion]

StaceyLee, I take it you a talking about a system that involves betting patterns and no bonuses? (like Paroli, Martingale etc as you mention)

Unfortunately there is no such working system.

http://wizardofodds.com/gambling/bettingsystems.html

Any casino operator that says you can't play Martingale is crazy and doesn't understand maths.

The only way people make money from online gambling is from bonuses, and it's much much harder than it was a few years ago.

[KasinoKing]

If a system is played e.g. Paroli, Martingale, etc everytime one logs into play will the casino ban user?

Casinos can ban anyone they want to for any reason, but it's extremely rare.
As long as you play at reputable casinos and don't break any T&Cs they will pay you all your funds (including winnings) in your account before banning.

System are fun and interesting to try, but none of them work long-term.
Casinos do know this!

Like liquuid_fusion said, the only way to beat casinos long term (like I have ) is to use bonuses, but only the best, most generous ones - there are loads out their which are total rubbish!

Welcome to the forum - and good luck!
KK

[StaceyLee]

Hi Liquuid Fusion,
Thanks for info. Have just asked another casino three times via email if it is okay for me to play system betting and they avoid answering the actual question, for example, in one of the emails I said something like: I was worried that if I was lucky and happened to win by doubling my bets whether I would be penalised and not get paid. They avoided the question replying with "Our casino does pay out winnings to our players that have won from the casino. To shorten delays documents are needed to verify you as player. If you have any more queries please do not hesitate to contact us." How many times do I have to contact them with the same question!!! Of course I do realise that the front person isn't going to make a statement that could be legally binding, but...... all I want to know is are we allowed to have a go!
Lose and sure the casino is happy .... but what if someone jags it and before they hit the wall they make a steady say $100/mth for 6 months .... is there a tracking or alert/alarm device detector that spots you after "X" wins, or something???? In other words if I won $X after X wins but the next win was going to ruin it for me and I would never see my winnings it would be good to know this in advance.

Are there any safety issues, I guess, that one needs to be aware of?

[StaceyLee]

Hi Kasino King
Thanks for info. I was going to request not to receive bonuses as did not want to get caught in the T&C conditions. Am confused as to how you can actually benefit from them?

P.S. Thanks to everyone who is helping with my queries I really appreciate your time, and beg your forgiveness for my ignorance. I did do a lot of research but do not have any "real experience".

[KasinoKing]

Stacey, sorry but you're being paranoid!
There is absolutely no need for you to be asking the casinos these questions.
People play in all sorts of different ways - the casino does not care!

Play any way you like at any reputable casino and you WILL get paid - I guarantee it!
(As long as you don't break any T&Cs).


{Edit} You posted while I was posting!

Hi Kasino King
Thanks for info. I was going to request not to receive bonuses as did not want to get caught in the T&C conditions. Am confused as to how you can actually benefit from them?

Have a look at my CasinoMeister blogs...

KK

[StaceyLee]

Hey Kasino King
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Weeks of wondering/worrying has finally been appeased. Just visited your website and it is great, (like this one). Feeling warm and fuzzy now and ready to roll.
Cheers.

[liquuid_fusion]

Please just be careful, the reason why you will be paid is that if you manage to win $100/month from casinos it is down entirely to luck and the odds are stacked against you. It's more likely you'll lose $100/month than win $100/month.

Casinos should be seen as entertainment, they are not a way to make money.