Card Spike

[Casinomeister]

Part 1 covered the fact that cardspike was not treating player and affiliates the way the should be treated in terms of timely payments and the fact that many sites had made such statements. At the time the GPWA and APCW were not involved in the fray...

Are there any other operators of other Cake Poker skins that can give an insight what exactly the operators are responsible? Is this a skin like Grand Virtual's skins were? (you provide the domain and website design, they provide the casino - to include casino support, payments etc.)

I'm just wondering how "involved" were the owners of Cardspike. Were they directly responsible for aff and player payments? What reasons (if any) were given explaining the delayed payments.

It's come to my understanding that most everyone is finally receiving payments (thus the lack of PABs on my end). Sorry for my lack of knowingness; Max and I are usually so busy, we don't find out that something has gone pear shaped until PABs start coming in

[jetset]

Judging by Casino City's post on page 3 of this thread we can now finally look forward to seeing the evidence backing the accusations levelled at CAP, putting at least some of the questions surrounding this company to bed.

The grand denouement will come probably before the end of this week and it will hopefully illustrate exactly who owns CardSpike, and the division of responsibilities to which Bryan refers to above, i.e. especially who was responsible for payments, which has a definite bearing on the issue following the denials of ownership published by CAP.

I therefore look forward to reading parts 3 and 4 of the Casino City report.

In the meantime perhaps any affiliates who have not yet been paid will put up their hands so we can get a feel for the scope of the remaining non-payments?

[pokeraddict]

Are there any other operators of other Cake Poker skins that can give an insight what exactly the operators are responsible? Is this a skin like Grand Virtual's skins were? (you provide the domain and website design, they provide the casino - to include casino support, payments etc.)

While not a skin owner this site appears to not be licensed by Cake Poker but instead a sub licensed white label made by the Sportsbook.com family. All of the processing and support came from Sportsbook.com's processor and support group. Also the way you create an account and cashier are different at CardSpike than they are at Cake Poker or Red Star, a direct licensed Cake skin. The web based cashier and account pages are exactly how Sportsbook.com and PlayersOnly are, another Jazette licensed Cake skin.

It would appear to me the only thing these skins are responsible for are marketing. I would have to assume that means they are in charge of their affiliate programs and payments to affiliates out of their cut. I do not think the player cashout issues are directly their problem, just a symptom of the problems their processor has.

[Casinomeister]

Cardspike still has CAP and PAP certificates. I thought these were pulled and they were booted from both programs. Or did I miss something?
http://www.cardspike.com/Affilates/index2.html

CardSpike is a proud member of both CAP and PAP. We are dedicated to the affiliate community as a whole.

Why haven't these certificates been yanked off of their site?

[GamTrak]

CAP/Effective Media/Card Spike clarification

Affiliate Media Inc., a Nevada Corporation with Offices in Irvine CA., and it’s shareholders are the owner /operators of the following web properties and products:

1. CasinoAffilitiatePrograms.com , Pokeraffiliateprograms.com, AffiliatePrograms.com – These are online communities designed to service the affiliate sector of their respective marketing niches.

2.AffiliateRevenue.com – Retail advertising agency with a primary focus on consumer finance and B to B sales.

3.Joint Ventures
A. CAP Magazine with Lyceum media (UK).
B. CAP Euro Events with iGaming Business (UK].
C. AffiliateSpeedPay.com (ASP) exclusive marketing agent and creative direction consulting.

Note: Affiliate Media Inc. has no ownership directly or indirectly of Affiliate Speedpay.com (ASP) or the EU Licensed bank which maintains the affiliate accounts. We have no direct or indirect access to banking/affiliate data or users. We did help author the product to serve as a stable affiliate payment solution after the Neteller fund seizures which affected many of us in the industry.

Clarifications:

1. Affiliate Media Inc. has no direct or indirect ownership whatsoever in CardSpike.com. CardSpike management did pay a full certification fee for exposure on CasinoAffiliatePrograms.com (CAP) and a full All In Partner fee for exposure on PokerAffiliatePrograms.com (PAP. That is the full and total extent of the relationship between the two parties.

Effective Media Group

Effective Media Group (EMG) is a Florida Corporation with offices in Orlando, FL. It was established by a separate set of share holders then AMI with the express intent of offering consulting services to online merchants, in ALL sectors. Our initial focus was to assist investors and operators of online gaming properties. We launched this business to satisfy the continuous requests from new and existing gaming operators for our consulting assistance and guidance with their affiliate marketing and general online marketing initiatives. In 2009, EMG will be branching out into other markets such as finance and travel to further satisfy clients without the necessary expertise to execute efficient online strategies. Both Lou and Warren maintain individual shares in EMG along with other shareholders.

Clarifications:

1.Affiliate Media Inc. has no shares or monetary influence in this new company whatsoever. It is wholly separate company with a different set of business goals and clients.

2.Effective Media Group, its officers, staff and investors have no direct or indirect ownership in CardSpike.com. EMG operated as performance based consultant ONLY for an offshore investor.

EMG was established as a consulting service offering scalable solutions for all online marketing niches. Turnkey fully managed solutions are available or they can provide training and support for new/existing clients. We encourage you to contact the EMG corporate offices for more information on (407) 781-1492.

Additional Notes:

CAP and PAP have dropped certification, recommendation and support of the CardSpike.com product. It’s our understanding that Effective Media has not been paid in full for their management services either and are pursing that vigorously with CardSpike.com.

source

[Casinomeister]

Thanks for the information Gamtrak.

2.Effective Media Group, its officers, staff and investors have no direct or indirect ownership in CardSpike.com. EMG operated as performance based consultant ONLY for an offshore investor.

EMG was established as a consulting service offering scalable solutions for all online marketing niches. Turnkey fully managed solutions are available or they can provide training and support for new/existing clients. We encourage you to contact the EMG corporate offices for more information on (407) 781-1492.

But I'm a little confused - didn't Greg Powell operate the affiliate program at Cardspike?

And he works at PAP correct? Did he work at Effective Media as well at the same time, or not at all?

Biography

Over the past half decade, Greg Powell has established himself as a leading figure in the online poker affiliate industry as both an affiliate and a program manager.

In addition to helping launch the CelebPoker.com affiliate program, he also worked to create press and brand recognition for that company. Later, he moved on to PokerHeaven.com and continued to help that company leverage the Poker Channel brand to build an exciting and profitable program for affiliates to promote. From 2005 to 2007, Greg owned and operated a white label bingo room and ran an independent bingo affiliate network.

Greg has also run and continues to operate several very well developed poker portals, and, for a period of time, worked directly with Jeremy Enke to shape the PAP website and community into what it is today. Greg is now Affiliate Director for Cardspike. He remains a host of PAP Radio and still occasionally contributes to the PAP Blog.

http://www.affiliates4u.com/profiles/gregdpowell/

If you could have someone clarify this, that would be great. Thanks!

[pokeraddict]

Greg Powell left CardSpike about 6 weeks ago. AFAIK he is banned from PAP just as so many others are over this now and no longer has anything to do with them. He was involved with PAP as the biography states and was AM at CardSpike from its launch until about Thanksgiving time in the U.S.

[Casinomeister]

Was he an employee of PAP? or just a volunteer moderator or consultant? Was he working at PAP and at Cardspike at the same time?

[Casino City]

Was he an employee of PAP? or just a volunteer moderator or consultant? Was he working at PAP and at Cardspike at the same time?

Greg was an employee of Effective Media Group at the time he was the affiliate manager for Cardspike.

I actually view the statement issued by Affiliate Media as a significant victory in terms of getting the facts out. Affiliate Media knew we were about to prove a relationship between Effective Media Group and Cardspike, and so just a couple hours before the posting of our next video was scheduled they made the statement GamTrak posted here.

As a result of the admissions Affiliate Media made in that statement, there was no need to go though the chain of logic we had prepared to demonstrate that relationship, so we scrapped that video. One of the things we were going to show is that Effective Media Group (of which Warren and Lou of Affiliate Media fame are the two officers) ran the Cardspike affiliate program.

Anyway, you can see our response to their latest statement here: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3rG6tDxC8Y&fmt=18"]www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3rG6tDxC8Y&fmt=18[/ame].

And we will follow-up with additional information in the context of the most recent statement in future videos.

Michael

[Casinomeister]

Are you looking at a different statement from CAP that I'm looking at? I don't see where they admit that they perform managerial services for Cardspike.

And how do we know that their affiliate manager, Greg, was working for Effective Media Group. Are there still pieces missing?