Affiliates with integrity

[RobWin]

Originally Posted by USA2112

I agree it is getting hard.



I had mentioned in the other thread how some affiliates think its just a big money tree. Well, just don't let greed get in the way and it can be alright and you can earn a little bit. But, for those affiliates that don't care about their players and whether they get burned at a casino will eventually burn down their own tree.

USA2112, I clicked on your link to check out your place and it comes up and says:

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[USA2112]

Originally Posted by RobWin

USA2112, I clicked on your link to check out your place and it comes up and says:

Sorry, but this board is currently unavailable. Please try again later.

Thanks for the visit RobWin. Had some problems I've been trying to work out with no luck. So, had to shut down for a while to do some rebuilding just have not had much time. Called in some help so hopefully soon.

[RobWin]

Originally Posted by USA2112

Thanks for the visit RobWin. Had some problems I've been trying to work out with no luck. So, had to shut down for a while to do some rebuilding just have not had much time. Called in some help so hopefully soon.

Let me know when you get it back up, I'd like to smoke it over...I've been checking out everybodys site trying to get some ideas...

[mojo]

Hello All,

I am a new member here and went through the motions of signing up etc. I was transparent of who I am. An affilate. But most of all a player. I am referring to this thread here.

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...-points-6.html

Lojo, I appriciate your opening a new thread and your straight forward way of looking at things, though the method was tough on me. I thank you for the compliment. I respect your quest, however, in trying to do your part for this industry. I responded as such:

Hi guys. Here are my thoughts.

While I wasn't happy about being blindsided here, I have to admit it has been effective in my examining this much closer. After I slept on it, I am currently contucting a player poll and getting input from other affiliates. Since I, myself, had only one player issue with this group and it was immediatly resolved with Nicolas, I haven't had cause to remove them. However, as a webmaster and a player it is my duty to excercise due diligence. I also spoke with Nicolas about this thread and am told he is aware of the bad rep and trying to make it better. My player poll shows a mixed bag but it has only been up 2 days.

Since this casino has been rouged here I am taking that very seriously. With all due respect, I am on my own info gathering quest at the moment. To be honest, it's not looking good for them.

Perhaps you could help. Could you direct me to recent relevent threads here? Maybe you could you tell me how you view Gambling Wages and Prism/Virtual? In other words do you consider them all one and the same and rouged across the board..?

lojo, I appriciate your post. See - I knew I liked you . I do have a Cirrus banner up as it is part of the GW group until further determination. I am always wanting to be a better affiliate/webmaster even if I don't like what I hear.


Sorry again amatrine!

I want to re-iterate I am a player. Many affiliates are not players. That is not a bad thing but I think I may understand more. I had a gambling problem and had to overcome that. I acutually had to be a raving lunitic to a funding method, firepay..remember them? I wanted them to ban me because I could not be trusted to utilize their service. I screamed at neteller too ( I was a total jerk) so they would close my account and not let me fund anymore. It worked. To those of you with a gambling problem and nothing else has worked, I recommend getting banned everywhere there is a funding method available to you. To this day I do not have a debit card on my checking account. I hope that makes sense.

As far as the relevent issue here. I have so far removed cirrus though I am not done. I have more to go. lojo was 100% right. I conducted the poll mentioned above. While some were happy with them the negitives outweighed the positives.

Now, here is my question. Since this is all one group, do you as players know what casinos are in this group? Why is one ok and one is not? To me, since I am also an affiliate, if you rouge one then you rouge them all.

I do appriciate you hearing me out as I constantly am seeking knowledge in this industry. I don't like to be told what to do but I do need a smack in the head to pay attention.

Resectfully,
Mojo

ps..i really do like lojo

[aksana]

First of all I should say that Mojo is a very good affiliate, she is one of those affiliates who thinks about players, because she is also a player. She knows more, she understands players better than a usual affiliate. She is very responsable and always tries to solve players' problems. And I know a lot of people who can confirm that.

CasinoMeister is a forum for players, affiliates have their special forums like CAP, GPWA and etc, where we also have our rogue and trusted affiliate programs in spite of that these programs are CAP or GPWA certified. I'm an active member of CAP and GPWA and I always read all posts and I have never heard that Gambling Wages (affiliate program of Cirrus Casino, Palace of Chance and etc.) didn't solve affiliates problems, they even could solve players' problems if an affiliate like Mojo asked them, yes there were complaints concerning payments delay, but always all problems were solved, and really it was a BIG surprise when I saw that Cirrus Casino was recognized as the worst casino of 2007. I also promoted all these casinos,recently I removed them from my site. It was my fault because I didn't investigate them properly, that is why I started reading CasinoMester forum that to be in the center of all events of the gamblers' world.

We all make mistakes...

[RobWin]

Originally Posted by mojo

Hello All,

I am a new member here and went through the motions of signing up etc. I was transparent of who I am. An affilate. But most of all a player. I am referring to this thread here.

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...-points-6.html

Lojo, I appriciate your opening a new thread and your straight forward way of looking at things, though the method was tough on me. I thank you for the compliment. I respect your quest, however, in trying to do your part for this industry. I responded as such:



I want to re-iterate I am a player. Many affiliates are not players. That is not a bad thing but I think I may understand more. I had a gambling problem and had to overcome that. I acutually had to be a raving lunitic to a funding method, firepay..remember them? I wanted them to ban me because I could not be trusted to utilize their service. I screamed at neteller too ( I was a total jerk) so they would close my account and not let me fund anymore. It worked. To those of you with a gambling problem and nothing else has worked, I recommend getting banned everywhere there is a funding method available to you. To this day I do not have a debit card on my checking account. I hope that makes sense.

As far as the relevent issue here. I have so far removed cirrus though I am not done. I have more to go. lojo was 100% right. I conducted the poll mentioned above. While some were happy with them the negitives outweighed the positives.

Now, here is my question. Since this is all one group, do you as players know what casinos are in this group? Why is one ok and one is not? To me, since I am also an affiliate, if you rouge one then you rouge them all.
I do appriciate you hearing me out as I constantly am seeking knowledge in this industry. I don't like to be told what to do but I do need a smack in the head to pay attention.

Resectfully,
Mojo

ps..i really do like lojo

Look on Casinomeisters List of Rogue Casinos, he has already done all the research for you over the years and yes you have to Rogue all the casinos in the same group...eg: Virtual Casino Group...a lot of casinos in that group...all Rogues...

[GaryWatson]

I would go as far to say, CAP is far from a reliable source of information. The more I read through the site, the less trustworthy they seem. I would use extreme caution taking their word on face value. Certainly not a good place to evaluate a site.

[BingoT]

I don't care where you go online to view any talk about Bingo,Poker,Casino.or whatever.You do have your Pro's & Con's.Because this one promotes this and that one promotes that.And this one says this is better and that one says it sucks.and so on.
I just think the bottom line is Money.
And the most important thing in this business is TRUSTand that the affiliate backs up the players if need be.I can name over 20 that would just ignore you if you ran into any trouble and this is a shame because it hurts the one's that care about the player.
I rather go through a affiliate than to join the site straight up.
But I do have to say CAP's does have good info and everyone will not agree with everything anyplace you go.

[RobWin]

Originally Posted by BingoT

I don't care where you go online to view any talk about Bingo,Poker,Casino.or whatever.You do have your Pro's & Con's.Because this one promotes this and that one promotes that.And this one says this is better and that one says it sucks.and so on.
I just think the bottom line is Money.
And the most important thing in this business is TRUSTand that the affiliate backs up the players if need be.I can name over 20 that would just ignore you if you ran into any trouble and this is a shame because it hurts the one's that care about the player.
I rather go through a affiliate than to join the site straight up.
But I do have to say CAP's does have good info and everyone will not agree with everything anyplace you go.

That's exactly why I suggested using Casinomeisters List of Rogue Casinos as a guideline as it is truly tried and tested over the years.

[aksana]

Originally Posted by RobWin

That's exactly why I suggested using Casinomeisters List of Rogue Casinos as a guideline as it is truly tried and tested over the years.

Yes, agree 100% with you!