rogue section

**fcat** · 18th September 2007, 09:53 PM

I don't know if this has been brought up before and I noticed in your rogue section that 3/4 of your complaints were from rogues, but how about having a major list of the top 20 rogue casinos somewhere in the fourm on the 1st page.

I think some people sign up and have never navigated other areas of your site,which I hope would save some people from playing at the wrong casinos.

Just a thought,

Liz

**Casinomeister** · 18th September 2007, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by fcat

I don't know if this has been brought up before and I noticed in your rogue section that 3/4 of your complaints were from rogues, but how about having a major list of the top 20 rogue casinos somewhere in the fourm on the 1st page.

I think some people sign up and have never navigated other areas of your site,which I hope would save some people from playing at the wrong casinos.

Just a thought,

Liz

Thanks for the suggestions...you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make 'em drink...

I require Casinomeister members (and visitors for that matter) to open their eyes and read. All of the information that players need to make sound decisions are at their fingertips already. I really can't make it more simpler. The rogue section is linked to EVERY page in the forum AND on the main site. All of it is searchable; most of it appears in Google.

The problem is, many players fail to do due diligence when it comes to protecting themselves. If they don't bother to navigate the rest of the site - well, it's not my problem. They are grown adults and should be able to make grown-up decisions

And so it goes...

**fcat** · 18th September 2007, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by Casinomeister

Thanks for the suggestions...you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make 'em drink...

I require Casinomeister members (and visitors for that matter) to open their eyes and read. All of the information that players need to make sound decisions are at their fingertips already. I really can't make it more simpler. The rogue section is linked to EVERY page in the forum AND on the main site. All of it is searchable; most of it appears in Google.

The problem is, many players fail to do due diligence when it comes to protecting themselves. If they don't bother to navigate the rest of the site - well, it's not my problem. They are grown adults and should be able to make grown-up decisions

And so it goes...

Thanks for the quick reply and good laugh!!! You're right about grown ups should be making their own decisions, so therein maybe lies the problem in that there are people incapable of making those decisions, and why we constantly read about being scammed by the virtual group.

**pokeraddict** · 20th September 2007, 01:08 AM

Instead of making a new thread I figure I can make a request here since it is about rogues. Can you update this page?

http://www.casinomeister.com/rogue/n...urebetlist.php

I refer lots of people to that page to find out if a poker room is a FB or not. It's out of date though since there are new ones popping up all the time as well as sportsbooks moving from Jazette to Futurebet. Also several have vanished.

**Casinomeister** · 20th September 2007, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by pokeraddict

Instead of making a new thread I figure I can make a request here since it is about rogues. Can you update this page?

http://www.casinomeister.com/rogue/n...urebetlist.php

I refer lots of people to that page to find out if a poker room is a FB or not. It's out of date though since there are new ones popping up all the time as well as sportsbooks moving from Jazette to Futurebet. Also several have vanished.

Thanks for the reminder. I was meaning to get to this.

**Casinomeister** · 20th September 2007, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by Casinomeister

Thanks for the reminder. I was meaning to get to this.

Done.

**Casinomeister** · 11th October 2007, 08:47 AM

What I have done now is placed all of the catagories and listings on one page. Hopefully this will ease visitors searching through the lists.
http://www.casinomeister.com/rogue/index.php

**Zoozie** · 11th October 2007, 09:16 AM

You wrote this about AP:Accusations of Collusion and Chipdumping

I would say it is much much worse that this. The software is flawed somehow or has backdoors to 'god mode'.

**fcat** · 12th October 2007, 02:43 AM

Originally Posted by Casinomeister

What I have done now is placed all of the catagories and listings on one page. Hopefully this will ease visitors searching through the lists.
http://www.casinomeister.com/rogue/index.php

I saw it today, you did a tremendous job streamlining the pages together. It was a very easy read.

Thank you,
Liz

**pokeraddict** · 12th October 2007, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by Zoozie

You wrote this about AP:Accusations of Collusion and Chipdumping

I would say it is much much worse that this. The software is flawed somehow or has backdoors to 'god mode'.

It might also be good to mention they own Ultimate Bet too. Also for Futurebet it says "Bad operators" but since you rogued them it has come out that they don't pay their licensees either and the blame really seems to fall on FB itself. It seems to be that FB takes the cash for the turnkeys, banks them and never pays players, affiliates or operators. Two former Ongame skins have made this accusation.

It's worth noting that two former FB skins that never had a problem paying players or affiliates banked their own sites. These two sites were Bettingchamps and Full Contact Poker. Both have since left FB.

I don't follow the sportsbook side of the business much but SBR is full of FB complaints, many directly blaming FB and not the skins. The best grade at SBR I can find on a FB book is a D-. Many are F's.

Just something that I've been meaning to bring up.