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    Angry SCAM Artists www.p4ks.com

    Hey everyone,

    We have recently been scammed by an affiliate. Wayne Jackson is his name and his url is http://www.p4ks.com/. Everybody STAY AWAY from this guy! He initially sent us an email in on Feb 1, 2009 and asked if we would like to speak to him about promotions, so I added him to msn and away we went. Below is his actual proposal:

    “For monthly fee of $XXX per month, we will place a gurantee that you will receive anywhere from 40+ depositing players or full refund issued.
    Positon (1) Comes with banners on every page, Inclusion to our database of 9000+ registered readers from our News Letter
    and over 1000 regsitered community forum members that are currently active and depositing players.

    For a one time offer we are prepaird to offer you 2 months for the price of one as a test run if you wanted this option as well.”

    We came to an agreement and I foolishly sent him prepayment for his “services”. After a couple of months of zero results, I contacted him and asked for our money back. He said that he would pay us back, but now it’s June and he still hasn’t paid us. It seemed highly unlikely that we were going to get our money back, so we asked around and tried to find out more about this scammer and it turns out that he is known for running scams like this. Below is a snippet of a response from one of Wayne’s ex-employees,

    “he sets up media deals with casino's gets up front money, makes guarantees he will bring in xxx amount of depositing players or your money back, once the casino manager sends him the money he disappears, this is his MO and I don't deal with people of this nature. he also owed me alot of money and never paid me or other staff”

    We emailed him numerous times and he would take weeks to get back to us and it seemed like we were chasing a ghost at times. We are not making false accusations and we have all the supporting conversations and emails saved between the two of us. We just want to alert everybody of this scam artist and make sure that he doesn’t ever scam anyone ever again! If anyone has any additional information or has been a victim to this scammer, please PM me or post about it.

    Regards,

    Jaxon
    *Jaxon Lam*
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    Like with everything, I strongly suggest before reaching any deals with anyone is to do your research. It is very critical due to the fact not only your losing money you are losing credibility as well. Please don't be so gullible to reach out to anyone who can get you players. I hope this time its a lesson learned.
    Give a fool his space....don't want to get caught up in their drama

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    At the very least, let this be a warning to all others...

    <devils advocate>

    Even I'm not a marketing or SEO expert, but as soon as I went to the site, thanks to Google's toolbar, I saw that it had a PR of 0...that, combined with an alexa rank of 3M+, 5 sites linking in, etc....well....


    Indeed, do a little more research next time instead of seeing $ signs and jumping in head first. Did you even ask for proof of their track record with other advertising campaigns that would show that they were capable of providing 40+ signups per month?

    http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/p4ks.com

    </devils advocate>

    Even so, I hope you get your money back, but I seriously doubt that you will.
    Operators: If you don't know what Transparency means, then here you go.....now how about practicing it?

    Transparency, as used in the humanities and in a social context more generally, implies openness, communication, and accountability. It is a metaphorical extension of the meaning a "transparent" object is one that can be seen through. ...

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    This maybe your guy..he has a forum maybe you can post there..or report the site to whomever.

    http://www.p4ks.com/index.php?showuser=1

    Wayne Jackson
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    jamway [at] worldnet.co.nz

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    To Jaxon....

    The net is overflowing with info on Wayne/GamblingGod/Jumpstar. I understand you're eager to get on and make a good deal...but where was the due diligence? It wouldn't take too much searching to find his reputation is, shall we say, crap.

    Honey, I got stories......
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    Quote Originally Posted by swampwitch View Post

    Honey, I got stories......
    Ahhhhhhh...the old days, Swampy. Oyster, P4K, KyBeauty, ATG and others.

    Just thinking about it makes me fear going to bed tonight. Too many nightmares.

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    Oh dear.....

    http://playing4keeps.yuku.com/

    Under Construction!

    All board info has been removed by jumpstarrs without my consent. I do not support any other sites that are using my name Playin4Keeps or P4K Gaming.

    jumstarrs is not to be trusted in my opinion.

    Check back from time to time for upsates about re-opening of Playin4Keeps.
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    What the OP is talking about ain't your mother's P4K. That was owned and operated by Christine. She employed Wayne after he'd opened and closed a few boards...another story altogether (Honey, lemme tell ya...). She took a powder/sabbatical, Wayne staged a coup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swampwitch View Post
    To Jaxon....

    The net is overflowing with info on Wayne/GamblingGod/Jumpstar. I understand you're eager to get on and make a good deal...but where was the due diligence? It wouldn't take too much searching to find his reputation is, shall we say, crap.

    Honey, I got stories......
    There's stories upon stories. And it simply amazes me how many people he's able to fool, and for how long.

    I guarantee no one is going to receive that so-called refund from him. And wouldn't be surprised if I, or anyone else posting receives a nasty email or pm from him for doing so.

    Stay away from him! He's a big con artist/scammer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by daera View Post

    Stay away from him! He's a big con artist/scammer!
    You forgot plagiarist and professional victim.
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