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    Thumbs down I'm beginning to wonder...

    I usually don't bitch about the randomness of online poker, but these two hands got me wondering...


    1st hand at the table:

    My QQQ beat out by KKK. Flop QKx - Both of us had PP.

    5 Hands later:

    679c Flop. I flop the nut flush - another player holds...guess what? 8Tc.

    wtf?

    I know the set is fairly common, but c'mon...those 2 hands so close to each other, and 2nd nuts both times?


    Against the same player?

    Maybe there is a "win" switch turned on for certain players, and a "lose" switch for others...who knows

    It was low stakes omaha, so I could really care less...but this definitely clinches the deal on my not playing online anymore. I do better at live games.

    There's actually a poker "tour" in my area that holds freerolls in bars/pubs/whatever. $100 first place, gift certificates for 2nd and 3rd. I've won 3 already in a couple months

    www.riverchasers.com if anyone is in the PA/NJ/NY areas and would like more information. You get points if you place in the top 30% of each tourney. At the end of every quarter, they take the top 400 point holders and have a satellite. They take the top 40 from that satellite and send you to another tourney. The top 9 from there play in AC for a seat at the WSOP....Pretty cool


    They also have an online tour going at FullTilt, but those are buy-in tourneys.
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    that's some crappy luck, winbig. i don't think i've had two beats like that close together. when something like that occurs, I usually look up the other dude on sharkscope and am often consoled to see something like "kasino_king -23% ROI.....-2,2579". that makes me feel a "little" better.

    that's just an example.....i don't know if anyone is actually using such an ID

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    Quote Originally Posted by winbig View Post
    It was low stakes omaha...
    That's tough, but in Omaha, 36 or 40 cards are dealt out, and each hand forms 6 two-card combinations, while in holdem only 20 cards, and each hand is only one two-card combination. So I think saying that such bad beats are twenty times more likely in omaha than in holdem is a reasonable estimation.

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    ah....i missed that this happened in omaha.........that 1st beat is not at all uncommon in omaha......only a donk would cry "rigged" on that one. ....... tuff_fish would just shrug his shoulders and say "that's poker" after that hand

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    I used to get beats like that on a regular basis after turning £20 into 500 on prima and cashing out.
    I lost all in with KK 7 consecutive times(not hands ) and even lost when i flopped a FH.
    Regular bad beats would be against the BB with hands like 88.
    I would raise to try and take the hand maybe *4BB they would call and the flop would come like 567 rainbow. We would end up all in and they would have something like 48 or 34 or 67 but all the time not just now and again.
    Over many hands I was losing to less than 10%ers maybe 4 out of 5 times all in (80%) it was really pathetic.
    On the flip side when I first started playing I got pocket A's four times running!
    What a crock of S***
    So I only play freeroll now but get the exact same bad beats.
    There are plenty of live tournaments now where luck comes and goes in a more random fashion
    I am 100% certain MG/Prima poker has some kind of hidden handicap system which would obviously favour and protects new and poor players at low stakes and sit and go.
    This makes perfect sense as no poker site wants the fish or new blood being chewed so badly they never return. More players=more money
    THE END

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    Omaha is my main game. These beats happen from time to time. Neither would qualify as a bad beat jackpot and neither is enough to raise a flag. Lose quads a few times and then the omaha game might be off. Keep in mind omaha is the mother of all river games.

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    Been playing on bodog.
    It seems there is one or two people who suck me out every time.
    Heres a hand from today.
    $400 PL OMAHA (3 handed)
    liquidsoap dealt (BB) As Ac 5s 6c
    Button folded
    SB raises $8 to $12
    liquidsoap reraises $24 to $36
    SB raises $36 to $72
    Hero Raises All in
    SB calls
    Small Blind shows Kh Ks 7h 6h
    Flop
    8c 9h 10s
    Turn
    Ad
    River 3d
    SB wins pot with a straight six to ten

    Theres quite a few of those.
    One involved me flopping the nut flush, slow playing it to the turn and him going all in only to catch a boat.

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    I forgot to mention, my post is not a complaint.
    It happens...
    But it might be a complaint if I was not up $2500 in the last month there!

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    This one is a few weeks old and from my '1-outed' collection but still fun to look at. I should've known better than to dabble in a stupid NL game....

    Seat 1: Stupid ($2311 in chips)
    Seat 2: Retarded ($1044 in chips)
    Seat 3: Donk ($2200 in chips)
    Seat 4: Stinky ($4901 in chips)
    Seat 7: The Greatest Player Ever ($2698 in chips)
    Seat 8: Donator ($1788 in chips)
    Seat 9: The Worst Player In History ($2233 in chips)
    Retarded: posts small blind $10
    Donk: posts big blind $20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to The Greatest Player Ever [Qc Qh]
    Stinky: raises $55 to $75
    The Greatest Player Ever: calls $75
    Donator: folds
    The Worst Player In History: calls $75
    Stupid: folds
    Retarded: folds
    Donk: folds
    *** FLOP *** [3h 6c Qs]
    Stinky: bets $165
    The Greatest Player Ever: raises $310 to $475
    The Worst Player In History: raises $1683 to $2158 and is all-in
    Stinky: folds
    The Greatest Player Ever: calls $1683
    *** TURN *** [3h 6c Qs] [Ac]
    *** RIVER *** [3h 6c Qs Ac] [6s]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    The Greatest Player Ever: shows [Qc Qh] (three of a kind,Queens)
    The Worst Player In History: shows [6d 6h] (four of a kind, Sixes)
    The Worst Player In History collected $4736 from pot

    ----------------------------------------

    Names withheld to protect these great players from autograph hunters and paparazzi....

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    Ouch

    I think the poker area needs a thread named "Bad beat stories" I'm pretty sure that it would rival the "Screenshots that suck" thread. Anyone else agree?


    ps: Why didn't you reraise preflop instead of just smoothcalling? Personally, I would rather not see a flop with QQ.

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