UltimateBet - Absolute Poker Scam

[GaryWatson]

Tokwiro Enterprises owned UB when AP got caught, and strangely enough Tokwiro Enterprises still owns UB. If kahnawake were not paid for covering up the investigation, at least they would have exposed a multi million dollar fraud. It seems they tried to cover AP/UB's tracks, but the true investigation is against Tokwiro Enterprises, another whitewash.

[KellyBlend]

Congratulations - it finally sunk in! However, this thread comes much too late!
In view of the incidents with Absolute and Ultimate Bet I suggest that the Casinomeister accreditation criteria are revised substantially. As long as this does not happen, Casinomeister is also a questionable organisation and for me nothing more than an eyewash. This is also the reason why I have moved back from this forum silently.

[GaryWatson]

Deleted - offtopic and abusive rant, reported by several members.

[Casinomeister]

Originally Posted by KellyBlend

Congratulations - it finally sunk in! However, this thread comes much too late!
In view of the incidents with Absolute and Ultimate Bet I suggest that the Casinomeister accreditation criteria are revised substantially. As long as this does not happen, Casinomeister is also a questionable organisation and for me nothing more than an eyewash. This is also the reason why I have moved back from this forum silently.

What's your trip? UB and Absolute were never listed here as far as I know.

Eyewash? Yeah, gets the red out

[kakata]

Originally Posted by Casinomeister

What's your trip? UB and Absolute were never listed here as far as I know.

Eyewash? Yeah, gets the red out

[same_old]

Well said Corey. Thats about it- the net is a great place to spread the word.
After AP was done it was swept under the carpet pretty quick and the player was none the wiser.
I think we all need to keep this alive and tell EVERYONE you now, the word WILL get around and close these bloody assholes down. I suggest you take your money out of that aplce and any that is remotely conected to the 2 outfits.

[bryand]

I think the current UB problem was caused by a dirty employee that assisted the players in question and they won't admit it due to bad publicity. It's hard for me to believe that top management and/or ownership would risk it all on a relatively small amount of money.

[jetset]

Originally Posted by same_old

Well said Corey. Thats about it- the net is a great place to spread the word.
After AP was done it was swept under the carpet pretty quick and the player was none the wiser.
I think we all need to keep this alive and tell EVERYONE you now, the word WILL get around and close these bloody assholes down. I suggest you take your money out of that aplce and any that is remotely conected to the 2 outfits.

I agree - the more mileage this story is given the less liklihood there will be of unwary players getting dragged into yet another dangerous situation with a Tokwiro operation.

Kudos to Casinomeister for doing his bit in achieving that.

[jolub]

Sadly, I have a few hundred dollars at UB & AP. Most of the money at AP came from my account at Vegas. I've already had hundreds of dollars taken from me my rogue sites and DGS. Maybe it's time to give up on-line gambling. It would seem the real gamble is if I'll get my deposit back.

[Casinomeister]

Originally Posted by jetset

I agree - the more mileage this story is given the less liklihood there will be of unwary players getting dragged into yet another dangerous situation with a Tokwiro operation.

Kudos to Casinomeister for doing his bit in achieving that.

The problem is that companies like this have massive marketing agencies that will bring in droves of unwary players. I have found that most players, casino and poker players alike, will never do any bit of investigation. It's like they've never heard of Google - Sometimes it's their own damn fault.

The AP spectacle was unforgivable. The Kahnawake license should have been yanked with prejudice. I would have like to have seen how another jurisdiction would have dealt with this. (IOM, Gib, Malta). But I think there is a conflict of interest in the land of the Mohawks

Speaking of losing credibility, look at Gambling911's take on this last fall stating that AP will become the safest poker room on the net because of this debacle. C'mon - puhleese. As a "news" reporting entity, they were obligated to chastise this poker room and steer the sheep away.

Now look what happened