Originally Posted by
Tirilej
I have two emailadresses that I use for gambling.
Today I got spammails from CasinoDeal to both of the adresses. Exactly the same spam.
I wouldn't be the least surprised if all of you have been getting the same
I'm use to getting spam from Casinos, sent from some creapy affiliate, but CasinoDeal isn't a casino.
Do they have so much money so they can afford hiring a company spamming for them or have they been buying my emailadress from some other company?
I don't get it really so if anyone can help me understand what these guys are doing would be great.
CasinoDeal recently came under fire on this forum. Once discussion of a casino related matter turned into an analysis of how CasinoDeal operated, they became defensive, and many of their replies to such questions were variations of "none of your business". This quickly became the main topic, and I can't even remember how it started. Bryan came along and stated that he had dealt with a forum spammer who spammed CasinoDeal links here, and CasinoDeal denied all knowledge of this, and stated "we do not spam". Many of the replies to their defences took the form of "bullshit", and it turned into an argument neither side could win, and it eventually fizzled out.
You have now given us further evidence that CasinoDeal DO spam, and I bet a close look at my spam filters will find that they have been spamming me too.
CasinoDeal have (according to their site) been "online since 1999", and are "trusted". Research can find no trace of them prior to 2011, they have around 450 members, and a forum that has few threads. All of this is inconsistent with them having been online since 1999, and Bryan has "never heard of them". At this, their rep backtracked and said they were "in the industry" since 1999, but not necessarily "online". This means they LIED on their website, and have STILL not corrected this, even though it came out in the debate.
I suspect they have actually been "online since 2011", and are currently on a major recruitment drive, hence the spam in all it's forms.
So caught up in the flow was I, that I made a glaring error in working out how their reward scheme works, which is their selling point. If a player signs up to a casino through CasinoDeal, they are promised a cash rebate calculated as a small percentage of their gross deposits. My mistake was to lose a zero and make it a 30% rebate, but it is in fact a 3% rebate. The problem as I see it is that this can be abused by players simply "churning" their money through the casino without any intent to play. Casinos have enough trouble over this when Neteller does one of their 1% cashback offers, yet CasinoDeal is offering a permanent 3%.
I told the CasinoDeal rep that they will run into trouble if advantage players get wind of this, but he would have none of it.
.....and NOW I remember how this started. A casino rep came here to ask "is it normal" after CasinoDeal offered to bring their casino on board, but appeared to want additional information on players that would breach their privacy rights. CasinoDeal came here to argue that they had NOT asked for the casino to provide this information, but merely to confirm that their data on a player matched that of CasinoDeal, and this was so that their deposits could be verified before the 3% rebate was allocated.
In the end, we have no evidence that CasinoDeal is rogue, but they DO spam, or at least allow, maybe condone, it being done on their behalf. They also have a problem with the truth when it comes to their advertising and marketing. The reward for taking the risk in giving them your information is a 3% rebate on all deposits at participating casinos. There is no evidence that they renege on this deal.
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