Villa Fortuna? Clever(ish) spam.

[ternur]

Got the email and proceeded to open account. Only to find out my country was on the not allowed list.

[vinylweatherman]

Got the email and proceeded to open account. Only to find out my country was on the not allowed list.

Again, this makes it look like spam, as if this was REALLY a personal invite to a known player, this would not happen.

Perhaps this casino has engaged affiliates already, and it is one of these that has started sending these out as spam to random Email addresses. Since the casino is actually running this promo, it works - players sign up and do indeed get the free chip. Now I want to see tales of players getting PAID just as easily.

As for one account per casino with Grand Prive, NO!! this has happened to another player who signed up at one two years ago, and used a different Email address and sign-up recently at another, and was locked for duplicate accounts because the original sign-up was a group wide one, giving him TWO group wide accounts after the second sign-up (complaints section earlier this year).

The fact that Villa Fortuna is a legitimate casino is irrelevant, as this is also the case for most spam, such as the Palace Group, Club World, etc spam recently doing the rounds.

[dynamitewoman]

From fortuna casino:
Should you find any players posting on any of your forums with regards to Villa Fortuna, please delete the posts immediately. We are not looking for the brand to be advertised in this manner
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And how do they want the brand advertised? It sounds as though they expect negative feedback and are attempting some damage control before it happens.
it takes some cooperation between webmasters and casino owners to arbitrarily delete posts that do not reflect what the site may be promoting as " their truth". I may be very naive about this, but is this a common grant that a casino operator may conclude is a standard operational agreement?
I, for one, would stop posting at any forum that deleted a post at the request of a gaming site owner because it was not to his liking.

[vinylweatherman]

From fortuna casino:
Should you find any players posting on any of your forums with regards to Villa Fortuna, please delete the posts immediately. We are not looking for the brand to be advertised in this manner
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And how do they want the brand advertised? It sounds as though they expect negative feedback and are attempting some damage control before it happens.
it takes some cooperation between webmasters and casino owners to arbitrarily delete posts that do not reflect what the site may be promoting as " their truth". I may be very naive about this, but is this a common grant that a casino operator may conclude is a standard operational agreement?I, for one, would stop posting at any forum that deleted a post at the request of a gaming site owner because it was not to his liking.

Not here it isn't

Villa Fortuna are wasting their time if they think they are going to gag this discussion.

Given that they stated they wanted to generate some wagering in order to get a gaming licence, surely anything that drew in players would be of benefit.

If they were so secretive that there was no independent information about them (as they would seem to prefer), only the naive newbies would play, or is this perhaps their intention

They would have been better off telling those players who they were backed by in the Email, this might have made them more likely to open the account than ask questions on a forum.

Had MY invite clearly stated this was a new Grand Prive casino they wanted to try out with existing players at their main sites, and offering a free chip to play and comment - I would have done so, and not bothered asking "Villa who?" here at Casinomeister, and lamenting that the spammers are getting ever cleverer at looking legit.

[LOOKAWAY]

Hi again it just dont make sense as i spoke to a web master about this before this topic and i was told that they would not place villa fortuna banners on the website and would put a warning in script when ever the casino name was mentioned.

Due to the fact they were going around affiliates so not paying them there dues.

So for them to say that they would like web masters to delete posts dont make sense as they are not on side.

I have not looked but can anyone find a villa fortuna banner on any website, as i have not come across one ever!

[lauram]

Ive talked to few casinos and all in all most of the time the negative response doesnt upset them as they told me gives them a chance to open up and reply back and show forum members they fixed the issues. But for a casino to say never write about them to me thats real shady time to avoid that group.

[suzy1975]

here is a fact.....i was stupid enough to open an account with this casino(if you can call it that) i won 250 pounds in bonus money but while playing it kept receiving error messages on my screen. There advice was to lower my security settings(i think not) but lo and behold the 250 dissapeared and i was promised it would be put back in. On speaking to the acting supervisor was told to give my bank details on the site as i used a ukash voucher (thank god) and he would release the bonus money(mmmmmmmm) i asked why he required these details and me to lower my settings when they work fine in every other m/g casino but he had no answer and would not allow me to deal with his supervisor. There is a really bad feel to this jokeshop and please be very cautious as i only lost 20 quid but i wouldnt like to see anyone losing any more without checking the casino out first. I see they dont appear to have a rep here though so what can u do?

peace to all meistermembers

[KasinoKing]

Villa Fortuna are now ROGUED of course along with the rest of the blacklisted Grand Prive group:
See http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...rogue-pit.html

This just goes to show that this 'spam' was the very beginning of them trying to lure their players away from the old GP casinos and get them to sign-up to the new VF casino while cutting the links to the webmasters who brought the players in to the GP casinos in the first place...
What a rotten, dirty, low-down, evil plan...

KK

[BingoT]

A good place to put this.

APCW Reports: Grand Prive Affiliates

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V54V8O_W4n8"]YouTube - APCW Reports: Grand Prive Affiliates[/ame]

[dominique]

I
But it does look like they are all out on bypassing affiliates at any means which i have no problem with either.

Villa Fortuna is not bypassing affiliates, Villa Fortuna is begging affiliates to accept them.

The rest of Grand Prive casinos decided to not pay affiliates for work already performed and breached contract and will accumulate hundreds of thousands of Dollars by refusing to pay for advertising they bought and had the results delivered on.

Affiliates are now supposed to shrug their shoulders and promote Villa Fortuna after just having had their income stolen by it's sister casinos.

Be careful guys, once a group starts stealing, whether that is from players or affiliates, the other group of people is next. If I was a cleaning lady, I wouldn't work for them because I would worry about getting paid.

In my 8 years in the industry I have seen it over and over again - what goes around, comes around. If an affiliate promotes a group that cheats players, s/he will eventually be cheated also. If a player plays at a place that cheats affiliates, they too get cheated eventually.

If a casino engages in unfair practice, breach of contract and refusal to pay, that tells you what they are like. No matter which group of people they victimize first.

And keep this in mind: Paying an affiliate is a lot easier than paying a player. The affiliate only gets paid if the casino makes money, and then only a percentage minus the bonuses etc. Paying a winner is hard, it comes right out of their pocket. So usually they will stop paying winners before they stop paying affiliates. In this case, I guess they saw an immediate huge amount of money in their coffers by not paying for the contracts they had with affiliates. Now they can pay winners easier - til that coffer runs dry too...

So players are being paid with stolen money.