Lyceum Media mis-representation of facts - Slotland

[vinylweatherman]

Originally Posted by KasinoKing

It would be a VERY big issue if they tried to fool people into thinking they were playing Video Poker.
I'm no expert on that game, but I do know the return for real JoB is probably something over 98%(?), you would decide which are the best cards to hold and you'd have a genuine completely random chance of getting the bigger wins.

What they have is a slot with a return of... who knows?
I can't see that they state this info anywhere on their website, so it could be anything from 95% downwards... maybe 80% for all we know!
With a slot there is no skill involved - it just pays out when it feels like it.

KK

I think it's about 98%, but some of this comes from the progressive pool, which can be won from ANY of the games, including the Poker Slot, and the Blackjack Slot (Spacejacks). Each game displays the progressive win in it's own way, but the progressive itself is run using a mechanism separate from that of the game, a bit like the RTG Random Jackpot. The Slotland one goes regularly between around $70,000 and $150,000. I have not seen it outside this range.

[RobWin]

Originally Posted by vinylweatherman

I think it's about 98%, but some of this comes from the progressive pool, which can be won from ANY of the games, including the Poker Slot, and the Blackjack Slot (Spacejacks). Each game displays the progressive win in it's own way, but the progressive itself is run using a mechanism separate from that of the game, a bit like the RTG Random Jackpot. The Slotland one goes regularly between around $70,000 and $150,000. I have not seen it outside this range.

I've never managed to make a cashout at Slotland, how are they about paying out cashouts..fast, slow?
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[gambloggr]

I apologize for any misleading descriptions of Slotland games in their news releases. Since I work for Lyceum Media and have written and distributed all of Slotland’s news releases since 2005, this is my mistake so I’m apologizing personally and on behalf of Lyceum Media and Slotland.

Clearly, we have used the term “video poker” too loosely. I took the term to mean any video game where players receive 5 cards to build a poker hand. I understand now that a true video poker game deals cards from a deck and that randomly generated numbers may call for different playing strategies. Cards “dealt” by spinning slot machine reels aren’t considered true video poker by many and describing them as such may mislead players.

As you have noted, Slotland very clearly describes their Jacks or Better game as a “video poker slot machine game” and “poker slots game” on the game description/pay table page.

As has also been noted in this thread, Slotland is well-known for exemplary customer service and has many loyal players that have been with them many of their 11 years online. It is not Slotland’s intention to mislead.

Had either I or the current Marketing Director at Slotland been around in 2004 when this issue arose previously – and was resolved – we would both have been more sensitive to our regrettable and erroneous use of the term “video poker”.

Please accept my personal apology for this misunderstanding and don’t hold it against one of the most reputable and trustworthy operators in the online casino business.

[vinylweatherman]

Originally Posted by RobWin

I've never managed to make a cashout at Slotland, how are they about paying out cashouts..fast, slow?
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I made one, and there were no problems. It was paid pretty fast back to my Neteller. You just have to remember that this ONLY happens on Tuesday, so the pending period can be anything up to 6 days (for a request on a Wednesday).

The argument regarding Video Poker or Video Slot is down to the mechanism used to determine hands. In Slotland's case, the Royal Flush is "blocked" unless you have, on that game, won the progressive jackpot. This means that the RF will NOT occur "naturally" during play, around 1 in 40,000 hands played, but will occur LESS frequently due to it being tied to the central progressive. The "spacejacks" game is similar. Three hands are dealt to the player, and three Blackjacks wins the progressive. This again is not "natual dealt", because three Blackjacks would occur too frequently to allow a meaningful progressive pool to build up.
If you are determined to have won the progressive at Slotland on any game, the game will probably just give it to you whatever you do. I have never won the progressive, so have not seen the exact behaviour of it's allocation. The wide variety of the games leads me to believe they use "weighted" reels on their slot games, so as to equalise the chances of winning the central progressive whatever game is played.