I see a New Rival casino was born RubyRoyal

[bb28]

I'm proud to say I gave Rob some pats on the back too.....via PM a while back. I couldn't believe the attitude he got, for doing nothing more than asking questions.
The person who didn't want to answer the questions used BS excuses not to. Disrespected was one and how he was doing everyone such a great favor just being there. Ooooo pls!

[NASHVEGAS]

I did try my best in that conversation... Seems as I was kinda on my own in that one though

I see how you may feel that way especially when the industry leaders do not want the boat rocked. May take in water and sink But you were not on your own. Kinda,fair enough

I perceived multi messages from others being sent to Mr. Wright (npi) especially at the end of the thread. JUST MY PERCEPTION!!

[Pinababy69]

But still, I want to try to keep a good balance too and pick the issues that I'm going to battle on carefully. Hope that makes sense..

Makes perfect sense Rob. You start fighting over every single, small thing...you tend to not get taken seriously when the big issues come up. And besides, you can't win every battle....nor are they all worth winning. That old adage about "choosing your battles wisely" still rings true. You did good.

[chuchu59]

Hey Rob,

Can you post a link here to the thread you are talking about. I would love to read it. Thanks.

[NASHVEGAS]

Hey Rob,

Can you post a link here to the thread you are talking about. I would love to read it. Thanks.

Am I allowed? If so,pronto or I can PM it----all ears!!

[Pinababy69]

Am I allowed? If so,pronto or I can PM it----all ears!!

AGD has their own Announcements Forum here in the Webmaster section Nash...I don't see why you wouldn't be allowed to post it. JMO.

[NASHVEGAS]

AGD has their own Announcements Forum here in the Webmaster section Nash...I don't see why you wouldn't be allowed to post it. JMO.

Thanks as that rule confuses me maybe because, I'm tired nevermind

LINK
http://www.affiliateguarddog.com/for...val-t1264.html

Living the dream,lol!!

[chuchu59]

I am surprised by the responses over at AGD. What Rob is asking are perfectly valid questions. If we could head a 'head in the sand' award for casino managers it would def be John of Rockbet. If I am reading correctly, he is saying that the Irish Luck fiasco is a non-issue because there arent many players that visit forums. That makes me believe that many of the Rival casinos except possibly Slotocash would have shared the pot that Irish Luck had gotten thru illegal means.

I think he also mentions that bonus-banning from Rivals is not nearly as severe as MG or even RTG. Rival may be growing but it's customer base is not nearly as huge as the other 2. Furthermore, it's more the attitude that Rival casinos choose in labelling bonus lovers as bonus abusers that really piss people off. People take a bonus, lose and that is great. Once the same people start winning, they are bonus abusers. WTF. So people who continually lose on bonuses are not bonus abusers until they start winning. Come off it. Most players take bonuses to extend their playtime and Rival has responded by secretly increasing the variance of their slots. I have noticed that while the RTP to players has still remained relatively stable, you now need many, many more spins to overcome the variance even on slots that were previously regarded as low to medium variance. Several slots that used to give many bonus rounds give far fewer now but once you hit it pays much better. They have even altered some payouts to do this. Months ago, when I played Granny's Attic, 2 scatters paid you back your bet. No longer now so if the RTP is still the same the variance has increased as you get 2 scatters many times.

Rob, it's their turf so they gave you a hard time over these questions that we all hope could be answered. You are helping us and even them in the long run. Keep it up mate.

[hippo925]

I did try my best in that conversation... Seems as I was kinda on my own in that one though.

From a player's point of view, that was a really interesting read! I think you did a FANTASTIC job of demonstrating a balance between someone interested in improving an affiliate program while at the same time addressing issues for your players and the community in general.

You raised excellent points and questions, but unfortunately, the affiliate manager did not want to address them at that time nor in that forum. Instead, a tactic was used against you to create the impression that you were being out of line or overly aggressive, unappreciative, etc....

That was too bad because you were being quite polite and professional.

I remember an Adam Sandler movie where his character was on a plane. He nicely asked for a plillow or something and the attendent remarks " please don't raise your voice at me." He didn't raise his voice of course, but it was the impression that the attendant wanted everyone else on the plane to have. It is a tactic that is used often to derail arguments or debates.

I am still really suprised that no one really wanted to get into the whole bonus banning thing or the progressive issue, but everyone keeps wondering why the numbers were down? weird.

[bb28]

Really excellent summary Hippo925.
You said exactly what I was thinking.