Gambling Wages/APCW

[Pinababy69]

All past issues resolved my ass!! And I don't feel like getting banned or suspended today, so I'll leave it at that.

[anniemac]

This is the biggest pile of BS I have ever seen. Wonder who is going to win the trip for the Challenge?

Rob, you were interested in the outcome of this mess because you and I were the only ones to post in the last couple of weeks at APCW asking about it.

This mess would not have even been opened up again if it hadn't been for the OP wanting to come clean about something.

I think Mystic has every right to be pissed about it. Her name has been bounced around this forum as well as many others and it was none of her doing.

Now that all has been "resolved" I guess we can all "get over it".

[Rusty]

I think that guy who is owed 250K should post his own youtube video and lend a little balance to proceedings.
Sickening.

[winbig]

Originally Posted by Rusty

I think that guy who is owed 250K should post his own youtube video and lend a little balance to proceedings.
Sickening.

Maybe Bryan has his email address? I don't think he's been to the forum in quite awhile.

[winbig]

JTodd shows his true colors:

http://www.youtube.com/comment_servl...&v=aDWkNUgTxFU

(btw, if you feel outraged by this whole mess, please cast your vote on youtube; I gave it 1 star.)

Comment:

The APCW has officially sold out. How about all of the other players that HAVEN'T BEEN PAID, but yet are owed money?

How about contacting all of the players that are owed money that DON'T KNOW ABOUT the new management? There's still hundreds of thousands of dollars that are owed to many many other players.

$10,000 isn't a drop in the bucket compared to what's owed to the rest of the players they screwed.

It's not like the don't know how to contact these players.

Reply:

And you are officially a dumbass.

We did everything we could to get players their money. We posted in every forum we could. We put up video after video. We waited two months to get every complaint. What more should we have done? Placed ads on NBC?

We have done FAR more than any other group to recover cash from a site no one else could. All we get is idiots like you who continue to bitch about it and do NOTHING to help.

You think YOU can do better? Go for it, slick! Otherwise shut up.

[vinylweatherman]

After sitting through 6 minutes of that, I get the impression that it was only Gambling Wages that wanted to cooperate, the owners of the casinos seemed uncooperative, otherwise the suggestion to contact ALL past players would have been a good one, and followed through.

The comments at the end about not having to rush back and play, or promote them again, seems to reveal a motive for this, they were HURTING, they lost so many players and affiliates, and their reputation as rogue was so widespread that they could no longer profit from their model (big bonuses, but screw the players that win with them).

Have they REALLY changed, or have they just adjusted to a new model that gives the impression of change, but they will just rip off players by a different means.

Robert said they were slowly bringing down the level of bonuses, but why not do it at once - they will still be getting new problems in the meantime.

The $10K did NOT come from the casinos, it came from Gambling Wages. There would be no way they could settle ALL the claims given that they talk about a mere 10K as being "a significant sum".

How many times in the past have this group pulled the same stunt - turning over a new leaf, new management, etc. Bryan believed them before, and got his fingers burned, but it seems that APCW are prepared to give them yet another chance.

This is likely to blow up in their faces, and that will be the end of APCW's reputation, even though some believe it has already been tarnished too much.

[mrracetrack]

Quotes from "Robert"... Gambling Wages affiliate manager:

"We're just straight and clean"...

"We're lowering our high bonus policy... and it will stop all the payout problems and confusion"...

Yup... I'm convinced...

Gambling Wages casinos will now be the "crème de la crème" of online casinos...


And J.Todd's remarks to the comments posted on youtube under the video show what a "class act" he truly is...

And you are officially a dumbass.

All we get is idiots like you who continue to bitch about it and do NOTHING to help.

You think YOU can do better? Go for it, slick! Otherwise shut up

Yes Sir... "class personified" from J.Todd.

[suzecat]

Originally Posted by mrracetrack

Yes Sir... "class personified" from J.Todd.

JMO don't ya know but JTodd's latest foray into the dark side proves to me that HE is the actual dumbass!

Despiration makes folks do jiggy chit

[winbig]

Originally Posted by suzecat

JMO don't ya know but JTodd's latest foray into the dark side proves to me that HE is the actual dumbass!

Despiration makes folks do jiggy chit

Yep, he's got a couple lackeys posting for him on Youtube, apparently; in support of what they've done.

Don't get me wrong, kudos for getting a handful of players paid, but this is bullshit.

And JTodd, I know you're reading this, so why don't you "man up" and prove you're not the dumbass that everyone says you are? You've already proven that you can't take the heat and discuss anything as any responsible adult would do, by running away when the questions got hard.

And yes, it was me that posted the original comment on youtube, so it's not like I'm hiding behind anything....unlike you.

I never once called you out of your name, nor cussed you, but you seem to think it's "grown up" to swear at people when they call you out.

side note: Isn't it weird that JTodd himself didn't post this week's video here? I wonder why? He's been posting them religiously for weeks now....

[mojo]

We have done FAR more than any other group to recover cash from a site no one else could.

I would like to humbly say that myself and many affiliates I know do the very best and have helped many players on an individual level and I resent the implication that apcw is the only group that helps.

edit to add: casinomeister stands out above all.