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    Exclamation allow an affiliate to play ,can ckaim back losses ?

    i latley saw specifically in one of teh terms of an accredited casino ,wont say its name , that affiliates and workers are not allowed to gamble .

    SO PROVIDED AN AFFILIATE PLAY (NOT VIA HIS LINK OFCOURSE) AND LOST, DOES HE SHE HAS A GROUND TO CLAIM THE LOSSES ON THE CLAIM THAT WHILE WITHRAWING THE CASINO ON ITS TERM COULD HAVE HOLD WINNING ???
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    please clarify your post

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    i latley saw specifically in one of teh terms of an accredited casino ,wont say its name , that affiliates and workers are not allowed to gamble .

    SO PROVIDED AN AFFILIATE PLAY (NOT VIA HIS LINK OFCOURSE) AND LOST, DOES HE SHE HAS A GROUND TO CLAIM THE LOSSES ON THE CLAIM THAT WHILE WITHDRAWING THE CASINO ON ITS TERM COULD HAVE HOLD WINNING ???
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    I am quite a bit confused by his post I must admit... First you state "If they play and lost" (the affiliate) but then you state "could the casino hold winnings"?? (if they lose what winnings are there?)

    I think you need to clarify this for anyone to give you input and feedback. ok?

    good question, IF I am interpreting it correctly. But I don't want to assume anything.

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    Could you let us know the name of the Casino. I feel that affiliates should play at the site(s) they promote, otherwise how can they accurately guide players? I can understand the prohibition against workers playing. If the games are random, an affiliate should have no more chance of winning than anyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasminebed View Post
    Could you let us know the name of the Casino. I feel that affiliates should play at the site(s) they promote, otherwise how can they accurately guide players? I can understand the prohibition against workers playing. If the games are random, an affiliate should have no more chance of winning than anyone else.
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    I too can't understand what is being asking in the capitalised part of the first post..

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    Could you let us know the name of the Casino. I feel that affiliates should play at the site(s) they promote, otherwise how can they accurately guide players? I can understand the prohibition against workers playing. If the games are random, an affiliate should have no more chance of winning than anyone else.
    I have played at nearly all those I promote, but I always try to sign-up through another webmaster's link - CasinoMeister if possible!
    There's two main reasons why I do this:-
    1) A lot of casinos do not allow affiliates to sign-up via their own links.
    2) When I play a casino there is at least a 50% chance I will make profit - I don't want that to be deducted off my commission earned from any other players!

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    I have a question for the affiliates. Are you allowed to participate in the tourneys and if so and win something big how would that work out. I mean your promoting a casino then you go in and win a tourney from them would other players not start thinking it was fixed. Would be like working for a airline during one of their free give aways and won the top prize there would be he$$ to pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasminebed View Post
    Could you let us know the name of the Casino. I feel that affiliates should play at the site(s) they promote, otherwise how can they accurately guide players? I can understand the prohibition against workers playing. If the games are random, an affiliate should have no more chance of winning than anyone else.
    An affiliate could exploit the system for massive profit if he could sign up under his own aff code. Let's say, you are on 25% revenue share with no carryover of losses, which is like having a 25% cashback on losses each month. Each month you make a single $1000 even money bet on European roulette. If you win (probability 18/37), you win $1000. If you lose (probability 19/37), you get $250 commission, so you only lose $750. Expected profit $101.35. With more agressive strategy you can increase your expected profit at the expense of higher variance. If you have enough funds to this at a few dozen casinos, you could make a living "working" 1/2 hour each month. This is why casinos don't allow people to sign up under their own aff code. Of course, the system could still be exploited by a syndicate, A signs up under B's aff code, B under C's, etc, or an affiliate could simply bankroll his players and share the profits.
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    A clarifying for stickg and all ,

    Thanks your replies i will clarify again .

    i am not talking here affiliate abuse . affiliate abuse is affiliate abuse .
    i believe most members and casino owners refer affiliate abuse in the same meaning ( affiliate owner plays himself from his own link from another computer , under another name and such . or another person plays from the same ip that affiliate web is based , etc . (( but obviously isnt it the true right of an affiliate to earn something from persuading his her friend from the registered link ? ))

    What i ment here is in a way a case similar to what happened with a girl player who was underage , posted in meister forum , and claimed , if she was allowed depositing ,despite she registered her minor age and playing , why did the casino make obstacles when she was winning nice money ? pls correct me if i am wrong i read this regardin monaco casino , i dont remember how it ended . )

    So i will try clarifying - o n the terms that casino published an affiliate should not participate in a game , both from his own link and IN GENERAL , (THAT i didnt i did not understand myself ) , one can imply that the casino reserve a right to revoke withrawl from a person who is registered as an affiliate , but plays (from meister link for example) as a gambler .

    So i am saying ,an affiliate ,who is also a gambler n, if he she should not bet in that casino ,according to the casino terms , - than iN A CASE THAT HE REGISTERED A PLAYER ACCOUNT(NOT FROM HIS OWN LINK) AND GAMBLE

    ,AND LOSES , CAN HE SAY - " IF I SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO PLAY AT THE FIRST PLACE , WHILE THE CASINO MIGHT "HAD THE RIGHT" TO HOLD WINNINGS , THAN I SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO CLAIM BACK LOSSES , SINCE THE CASINO ALLOWED THE GAMMING " ?

    i hope the post is more clear now and i will carefully read the replyies .
    there may be a case here .

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    I still don't think I understand your question catcat941, but I'll take a stab at trying.

    Is this your question in the example below??

    An affiliate plays at a casino by following the links from another affiliates site, (not his own affiliate code) and plays at x casino, but it is against the terms and conditions for the affiliate to play at this particular casino. They win........they can't withdraw because they went against T&C's, but they want to claim losses on their own affiliate code??

    Is this your question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by catcat941 View Post
    should not participate in a game , both from his own link and IN GENERAL , (THAT i didnt i did not understand myself )
    Yes, that needs to be changed. I see no reason for it other than revoking genuine payments

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