Has Warren Cloud passed on?

[hakapuku]

Originally Posted by vinylweatherman

I have just received a spam from "silver oak", and it has the entire stable named.

Planet7
GoldStream
PharaohsGold
LuckyPalm
CatsEye
Ringmaster
RoyalAce
CaptainJack

I am told I can claim a 160% bonus at ALL OF THEM!!!!!!!!




I also noticed this:-



That has old Warren Cloud written all over it. I remember this with Crystal Palace, bonuses of huge amounts as above $15K to 24K, and this is ON TOP of my free 160% on my first 20 deposits at EACH CASINO!!!!


This looks like the Crystal Palace group have shut down, and immediately we see 8 "new" casinos come on to the scene, complete with marketing and (supposedly) enough backing to be able to give away such MASSIVE bonuses.

Anybody, even if they knew about the rogue status of the now defunct Crystal Palace group, would think these were new casinos (well, they are). They will have NO negative press in Google, nor on many websites.

I suspect this is a company that has cut & run from existing liabilities, only to resurface afresh, owing no debt to creditors of the past entity, but actually being that past entity in all but name. This is rather like those rogue double glazing and conservatory companies.

I had an account at Crystal Palace, and this has got me onto the list for this "special" invite from "Alexander Cheadle", the manager of Silver Oak, and who seems to speak for all 8 of them.

What would be the best thing for one if he owes tons of money to the thousands of ppl? I think it would be that everybody think that he is not alive anymore...

[vinylweatherman]

Originally Posted by hakapuku

What would be the best thing for one if he owes tons of money to the thousands of ppl? I think it would be that everybody think that he is not alive anymore...

This is unlikely. Warren Cloud died off the coast of Spain, and there had to have been a body to diagnose "heart attack". He supposedly had nothing to do with his old empire, having concentrated on operations in South Africa. Clearly, this was not true, and he had sufficient connections with his old group for his death to cause them to be killed off. It seems they have not just rebranded, but been bought out by virtual group, who are even more rogue than Warren Cloud's operations used to be. This would allow Virtual access to the player base at the old Doleplex casinos, and they have wasted no time in using it to send out the spam for the new casinos.

It seems problems have begun already, with players downloading these "new" casinos and being caught out with "duplicate accounts" through having an account under the old Doleplex name, yet this information is deliberately concealed - so players have no way of knowing whether they might have existing accounts or not. This will pave the way for confiscation of winnings from players that do start to play at these new casinos, and win overall for the first time, only to find they get only their original deposits back (a common virtual trick). The other Virtual trick is where they have a max cashout even when players have not taken a bonus, on the grounds they have had more bonuses than they have deposited, always true where bonuses are all over 100%, and offered on every deposit. The added trick is that now they can use "secret history" from bonuses and deposits under the old Doleplex name to pull this trick with the new casinos.

With the massive bonuses on offer during July, I am sure August will be a month of complaints about these new operations, and we will have to remind these poor souls that they have been playing at Virtual group casinos, and will have quite a struggle to get paid.

[suzecat]

MaxD. Hope you had a restful and fun break/vacation/holiday! Sounds like the next few months are going to be busy.............

FWIW, Danielle (the CS who "spilled the beans") is an old timer at Virtual, if that is really the same person

[kakata]

Originally Posted by suzecat

MaxD. Hope you had a restful and fun break/vacation/holiday! Sounds like the next few months are going to be busy.............

FWIW, Danielle (the CS who "spilled the beans") is an old timer at Virtual, if that is really the same person

How do you know?...Darlin'

[suzecat]

Originally Posted by kakata

How do you know?...Darlin'

Well, ok, fallin on the sword again! Kakata you know it is no secret that I played (and deposited) at this group for many years.........Just because of my recent epiphany I still remember CS Danielle You little twerp............how ya doing?

[kakata]

Originally Posted by suzecat

Well, ok, fallin on the sword again! Kakata you know it is no secret that I played (and deposited) at this group for many years.........Just because of my recent epiphany I still remember CS Danielle You little twerp............how ya doing?

Great now that I talked to you.....sweeeeeeeety
Since I dont know the word "Twerp" would you mind to explain.???.......
Hope is a compliment...lol

[BigJock]

Originally Posted by vinylweatherman

This is unlikely. Warren Cloud died off the coast of Spain, and there had to have been a body to diagnose "heart attack". He supposedly had nothing to do with his old empire, having concentrated on operations in South Africa. Clearly, this was not true, and he had sufficient connections with his old group for his death to cause them to be killed off. It seems they have not just rebranded, but been bought out by virtual group, who are even more rogue than Warren Cloud's operations used to be. This would allow Virtual access to the player base at the old Doleplex casinos, and they have wasted no time in using it to send out the spam for the new casinos.

It seems problems have begun already, with players downloading these "new" casinos and being caught out with "duplicate accounts" through having an account under the old Doleplex name, yet this information is deliberately concealed - so players have no way of knowing whether they might have existing accounts or not. This will pave the way for confiscation of winnings from players that do start to play at these new casinos, and win overall for the first time, only to find they get only their original deposits back (a common virtual trick). The other Virtual trick is where they have a max cashout even when players have not taken a bonus, on the grounds they have had more bonuses than they have deposited, always true where bonuses are all over 100%, and offered on every deposit. The added trick is that now they can use "secret history" from bonuses and deposits under the old Doleplex name to pull this trick with the new casinos.

With the massive bonuses on offer during July, I am sure August will be a month of complaints about these new operations, and we will have to remind these poor souls that they have been playing at Virtual group casinos, and will have quite a struggle to get paid.

This is what I believe. The name Warren Cloud is fictional. Therefore his death can be wrote off anyway he pleases. I remember reading earlier this year, where he sold all his stake in the casino business. He made plenty, plenty of money. Remember the cars he was bidding on Ebay? I think he paid off most of his BIG investors. And now disappeared from the scene as Mr Cloud. These new group of casinos was bought from him earlier on. And after all the paper work and license expires on Mr. Cloud behave. He can now die off and Never worrying about traveling aboard. The character is Dead and the Real person lives on.

[jetset]

Originally Posted by BigJock

This is what I believe. The name Warren Cloud is fictional. Therefore his death can be wrote off anyway he pleases. I remember reading earlier this year, where he sold all his stake in the casino business. He made plenty, plenty of money. Remember the cars he was bidding on Ebay? I think he paid off most of his BIG investors. And now disappeared from the scene as Mr Cloud. These new group of casinos was bought from him earlier on. And after all the paper work and license expires on Mr. Cloud behave. He can now die off and Never worrying about traveling aboard. The character is Dead and the Real person lives on.

Warren Cloud is (or was) real enough alright. I think Bryan can attest to that having actually met the guy.

[BigJock]

Originally Posted by jetset

Warren Cloud is (or was) real enough alright. I think Bryan can attest to that having actually met the guy.

Im sure he was a real guy...We see actors all the time from sitcoms and still refer to them by their stage name. Warren Cloud real name could be John McDubya Bush. While Warren is dead but John is still alive.

[vinylweatherman]

Originally Posted by BigJock

This is what I believe. The name Warren Cloud is fictional. Therefore his death can be wrote off anyway he pleases. I remember reading earlier this year, where he sold all his stake in the casino business. He made plenty, plenty of money. Remember the cars he was bidding on Ebay? I think he paid off most of his BIG investors. And now disappeared from the scene as Mr Cloud. These new group of casinos was bought from him earlier on. And after all the paper work and license expires on Mr. Cloud behave. He can now die off and Never worrying about traveling aboard. The character is Dead and the Real person lives on.

This is what bothers me. He had divested himself of his interests in Doleplex, but somehow his death triggers the demise of Doleplex. It could be that Virtual has been running these casinos for some while, and had to fess up once Mr Cloud passed on, so they have rebranded them for a fresh start, but have had to tell existing players about what happened.
I have now been told my account at Silver Oak has been made available, with a $50 free chip and the most generous offer of 20x 160% bonuses each one up to $24,000 - $480,000 free if I was daft enough to take them all - beats even those crazy offers from them in the past.

This confirms Silver Oak = former Crystal Palace. Others have worked out what the old and new versions of the others are. I hope Bryan has amended the entry in the rogue pit to reflect this change of ownership & rebranding

Virtual might as well buy up RTG itself the rate they are going.