PR: LARGEST ONLINE GAMBLING PLAYER SURVEY GOES LIVE TODAY

**Casinomeister** · 11th September 2006, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by jetset

The problems with 888.com have been affiliate oriented, and that has placed eCOGRA on a collision course with affiliates due to its refusal to become directly embroiled in affiliate issues...

I just want to jump in real fast-like before moving on to other pressing things, but I need to clarify that many of the complaints about site scrapping etc., were indeed affiliate oriented, the issue that I rogued them for was not the doing of an affiliate - but Casava itself.
http://www.casinomeister.com/rogue/888.php

Casava, as far as I know, is not an affiliate.

This said, I don't want thread getting spiraling into a "eCOGRA = good or bad?" debate, but focused more on the survey.

**soflat** · 13th September 2006, 05:46 AM

Originally Posted by Vesuvio

I have to agree with Gooner here. Questions like, "Did you realise that eCOGRA visits its seal-holders personally?", would never occur to anyone wanting to conduct a general survey of the on-line gambling industry. They're a form of marketing.

Absolutely! The survey started out ok, then I realized I fell for a marketing campaign (darn, I got scammed again, did they expect me to be sincere in my answers after that?).

They should have chosen whether this was a real survey OR marketing. But don't mix the two and don't use a real survey to promote yourself to volunteer survey takers.

Besides that I felt some questions were leading, so they will probably get the answers they want.

**The Watchdog** · 14th September 2006, 01:12 AM

They haunt me.. I am pretty sure about that... May be just paranoia... But the least I want to hear from eCogra, the more I read about them.

Any ways, I won´t even take the survey. From the comments of several posters I respect here all that it will cause is for my stomach to burn in gastric gas.

WAS THERE REALLY A QUESTION THAT SAID: Did you realise that eCOGRA visits its seal-holders personally?......WHAT!!! Who cares??? I don´t give a f"%·"· if you visited them. They could have coffee in the afternoon, some drinks at night, or share some personal feelings.. I HONESTLY DON´T GIVE A CRAP .. as long you make sure they are operating a reliable site....

What procedures do you think eCOGRA takes in approving a casino? ddddddduuuuuhhhhhh my god.. Please some one tell me those guys didn´t put that there...

From several posts I get the feeling that survey had several objectives:

1) Advertisement from eCogra and their sponsored sites.
2) They seem to realize they know di"% about gambling sites, so probably this survye was mainly for research and actually learn some about what agambling site should be
3) The survey crap is just a cover to achieve both things up..

Call me a freak, but thats what I believe.

Another thing I read and was surprised is that Microgaming funds eCogra... I wonder why most microgaming sites are "ENDORSED" by those "pros" in the industry.

Any ways, I hope people realize that with their own judgement and own research you can find a decent site without believing that a seal from some guy will assure fairness....

Didn´t you ever used an air spray that said "ozone friendly" or something? Did that freaking seal work?? Guess not, thats why the poles are melting.

An the "100 sites play it safe" goal... WHAT THE "·%" IS THAT..?? never understood it... It seems like if it was some major unatural effort they are making to reach that goal... pffff what a rip off.

I just want to see the articles when they finish it, or if they already have...
"eCogra does it one more time" "UNBELIEVABLE.. 100 SITES¨"..."BEHOLD THE ENTITY, 100 SEALS GIVEN"....

As I have always said... a casinomesiter.com seal would be something to rely on. I believe that the this site should absorb those guys... Just like BoS absorbed Vo Group or other casinos have taken over others...

It would be just like when a casino changes from a software to another... only that now you will have the Meister´s seal instead than the (sarcastic, non polite description of eCogra) seal which I have no respect for.

**suzecat** · 14th September 2006, 03:18 AM

Watchdog:

Hope you don't mind this American agreeing with what you say. Also refreshing to see that someone else is getting bashed a bit instead of the usual suspect(s).

**happygobrokey** · 16th September 2006, 07:04 AM

what do you like most about online gambling:

you can do it naked!

**WagerWitch** · 20th September 2006, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by happygobrokey

what do you like most about online gambling:

you can do it naked!

Best answer by far!! And the TRUTH! LOL!

However - with all surveys - the reason behind them are duofold.

Monetary Rewards and Information.

And as we all know - INFORMATION = Monetary rewards.

GRIN.

WagerWitch
luckymeki

**Karen_M-C** · 26th September 2006, 03:16 PM

I have to agree with Watchdog and Gooner.

All in all this survey is about as subtle as an infomercial, minus the shameless celebrity.

Now, these questions are the stuff campaigns are made of:
"Which of the following promotional offers would be most likely to entice you into playing at a poker room?"
"Why did you start playing online poker?"
"To what extent do you play online poker for the following reasons?"

I have nothing against eCOGRA and what it represents, but this survey is too transparent.