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Old 22nd November 2005, 11:47 PM
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Pump Poker and the OPU

The Online Player’s Union (OPU) has the following statement on their website:


“Online Players Union is an independent watchdog (directory) and information service not (*owned by) any casino or sports book.”

It has come to my attention that Pump Poker, and Money Pump, is owned by Damian Dunlap, owner of the OPU. The dot com for Pump Poker uses a “domain by proxy”. The dot net is registered to Damian.

If you were to go to the OPU at this time, Damian and the staff are heavily promoting Pump Poker, yet they are acting like they don’t know who owns it and just happened to find this awesome poker site/casino/sportsbook and rave about it. Why are all of the moderators acting as shills for Damian? Why all of the deception and secrecy? It appears that some of the staff from the OPU are posing as staff for Pump Poker also.

I believe that it is a real conflict of interest for a (self-proclaimed) watchdog site. I’m very concerned about the reasons for the deception.

Beware of Pump Poker and beware of the OPU.

Registrant:
bishoplowfat.com

Registered through: GoDaddy.com
Domain Name: PUMPPOKER.NET
Created on: 13-Sep-05
Expires on: 13-Sep-07
Last Updated on: 13-Sep-05

Domain servers in listed order:
PARK21.SECURESERVER.NET
PARK22.SECURESERVER.NET
[Whois Server]:whois.godaddy.com


http://www.moneypump247.com/index.php

Registrant Contact:
Damian Dunlap
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dns1.supremecenter26.com
dns2.supremecenter26.com

Creation date: 19 Oct 2005 19:29:13
Expiration date: 19 Oct 2006 19:29:13

Whois-Services: x979a2ypy43.MONEYPUMP247.COM@whois-services.com

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Old 23rd November 2005, 12:05 AM
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The Online Player’s Union (OPU) has the following statement on their website:


“Online Players Union is an independent watchdog (directory) and information service not (*owned by) any casino or sports book.”

It has come to my attention that Pump Poker, and Money Pump, is owned by Damian Dunlap, owner of the OPU. The dot com for Pump Poker uses a “domain by proxy”. The dot net is registered to Damian.

If you were to go to the OPU at this time, Damian and the staff are heavily promoting Pump Poker, yet they are acting like they don’t know who owns it and just happened to find this awesome poker site/casino/sportsbook and rave about it. Why are all of the moderators acting as shills for Damian? Why all of the deception and secrecy? It appears that some of the staff from the OPU are posing as staff for Pump Poker also.

I believe that it is a real conflict of interest for a (self-proclaimed) watchdog site. I’m very concerned about the reasons for the deception.

Beware of Pump Poker and beware of the OPU.
Why don't you come right out and say who you are?

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“Online Players Union is an independent watchdog (directory) and information service not (*owned by) any casino or sports book.”
That is pretty much standard language, and us promoting a poker room does not indicate that we are owned by any poker room or casino.

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It has come to my attention that Pump Poker, and Money Pump, is owned by Damian Dunlap, owner of the OPU. The dot com for Pump Poker uses a “domain by proxy”. The dot net is registered to Damian.
It has come to your attention??? Can you show me which law is broken by us owning a .net domain name? And where is your proof that Damian Dunlap owns pump poker or money pump?
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The dot com for Pump Poker uses a “domain by proxy”.
So what?
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The dot net is registered to Damian
Again, so what? The poker room is aware of this, and they have no problem with it. Why do you?

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If you were to go to the OPU at this time, Damian and the staff are heavily promoting Pump Poker, yet they are acting like they don’t know who owns it and just happened to find this awesome poker site/casino/sportsbook and rave about it.
Ummm....have you ever heard of a media buy? We promote several casinos and poker rooms. But because we bought the .net domain name, all of the sudden we are guilty of something sinister???


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It appears that some of the staff from the OPU are posing as staff for Pump Poker also.
HEY scumbag....you better damn well have proof of that! Because I can PROVE otherwise!

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I believe that it is a real conflict of interest for a (self-proclaimed) watchdog site. I’m very concerned about the reasons for the deception.

HUH!!!!!! Why is this such a big concern to you??? Do you own a poker room and are concerned about some competition? Or are you part of the small group of people that read our site everyday and complain about it?

GET A LIFE! PLEASE!!!!!!!!


And please. for the love of god, can a moderator here PLEASE remove my partners personal info.
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Old 23rd November 2005, 12:42 AM
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Please bear in mind forum rule 1.8
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I don't mind members having concerns on how websites are run, but let's keep it mellow, okay?

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emmm - ahem - ahh - jeez, I think I bit my tongue off!

Re. portal wars: Might be interesting to see the IP of the first poster.
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LOL now I work for Pump Poker!!!! How come you didn't tell me this Mark? I would of demanded a huge raise!!!!!
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QUOTE: It has come to my attention that Pump Poker, and Money Pump, is owned by Damian Dunlap UNQUOTE

That's a very serious statement IF it is true, but I don't see it substantiated anywhere in this anonymous post, which imo reeks of a vindictive motive.

DD and I have personally never hit it off, and never will but I find this sort of cloaked accusation distasteful and unfair to say the least.

The fact that the accuser does not have the guts to come out into the open with it helps me discount the claims he (or she?) makes.
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Old 23rd November 2005, 11:30 AM
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Re. portal wars: Might be interesting to see the IP of the first poster.
I looked at it and it's not that interesting. It was yours!

Ha! Just kidding.


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And where is your proof that Damian Dunlap owns pump poker or money pump?
Ditto. You need to provide proof of ownership before going on a rant. Do not abuse this board with misguided postings. Thanks.
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Isn't the whois information proof?

pumppoker.net and pumppoker.com were registered on the same day.

http://www.whois.net/whois.cgi2?d=pumppoker.net

http://www.whois.net/whois.cgi2?d=bishoplowfat.com

http://www.whois.net/whois.cgi2?d=moneypump247.com


Let's pretend for a moment that Casinomeister and staff all have signatures promoting 32Red, and 32Red staff come here to thank Casinomeister and staff for all of the business being sent their way from this site (that is what is going on at the OPU with Pump Poker).

Then a "whois" is done on 32Red and we discover 32Red is registered to Bryan Bailey. It would all be cool? No one would question anything or be upset at anything?

Things would sit better in my mind if Damian and staff had just "fessed up" and told the members that the OPU (or Damian himself) owned or were part of Pump Poker.
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Old 23rd November 2005, 12:53 PM
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Perhaps Pump Poker would like to comment.

This has been plonked on a few boards and so far we have

*chirp* *chirp* *chirp*

from pump poker

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