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Discussion in 'Online Casino and Poker Complaints - old section' started by suzecat, Oct 13, 2005.

    Oct 13, 2005
  1. suzecat

    suzecat Dormant account CAG MM webmeister

    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    California
    I fell for this and opened an account at Fortune Room (Fortune Affiliates).

    The email clearly said if you use the link in the email and download/open a new account, you would deposit $20 and receive $50 to your Neteller account with no wagering required. Nope! I opened a new account (did not have one and verified with support there was no existing account). Deposited $20 by Neteller. A couple days later, the $50 was put in my casino account, NOT NETELLER. The casino also deposited $10 into my casino account as a "first deposit bonus." I did not request this. They say I did but I didn't. I just wanted the "free lunch" $50 for $20.

    Of course when I tried to withdraw the money to my Neteller (where it was supposed to have gone in the first place) it was declined. Now the casino wants wagering requirements to withdraw the "free $50."

    OK, I got it. I'm stupid and the trick is on me!:(
     
  2. Oct 13, 2005
  3. Bruce Hamilton

    Bruce Hamilton Dormant account

    Occupation:
    What's a job?
    Location:
    USA
    Any time a casino or afiliate offers a free chip, there's always a WR attached. :rolleyes:
     
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  4. Oct 13, 2005
  5. suzecat

    suzecat Dormant account CAG MM webmeister

    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    California
    NOT THIS TIME!!!!!!!!!!!

    This email came after I claimed the $50 for $20"


    Thank you for participating in BB's "$50 FREE CASH" promotion.
    Your account details have been received.
    Upon verification of your new account and deposit, BB's will deposit $50
    CASH into your NETeller account.

    Please note that it typically takes 3-5 business days for the casino to
    confirm account eligibility for this promotion.

    Don't forget to collect your new player's "First Deposit" match bonus...
    You are free to request this bonus at any time, since the $50 from BB's is
    in addition to the standard new player's bonus!

    Remember that this promotion will only run through the end of October. You are welcome to take advantage of the offer at another one of the featured casinos if you wish. Just make sure to send us your account and deposit details again if you want another $50!

    Enjoy your time at the casino!


    Have a great day!

    Best Regards,
    BB's Casino Connection
     
  6. Oct 13, 2005
  7. juliette

    juliette Dormant account

    Occupation:
    student
    Location:
    now abroad
    maybe this is stupid question, but what "BB's" stand for?
     
  8. Oct 14, 2005
  9. suzecat

    suzecat Dormant account CAG MM webmeister

    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    California
    The email came from "Bonusbroadcast" which I presume is what BBs stands for, Juliette.


    And just for you, Bruce Hamilton,


    10/1 - 10/31: BB's will pay you $50 CASH just for registering a new* account and making a deposit of $20 or more.
    (*You MUST use a banner that is in THIS e-mail to download and register to be eligible.)

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    $50 CA$H on top of the standard new player offers at 9 casinos!
    This is real money sent to your NETeller account! (If you don't have a NETeller account, the $50 will be deposited as cash into your new casino account with no terms; It is 100% withdrawable at any time - This is NOT a bonus!)
     
  10. Oct 14, 2005
  11. Bruce Hamilton

    Bruce Hamilton Dormant account

    Occupation:
    What's a job?
    Location:
    USA
    And your point is... :what:
    I read the email you posted above yesterday, this comment serves no purpose.
     
  12. Oct 14, 2005
  13. suzecat

    suzecat Dormant account CAG MM webmeister

    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    California
    Bruce Hamilton



    The point being that you made a sweeping statement that "there are always WR attached." It appears you needed some proof that my original statements were true.
     
  14. Oct 14, 2005
  15. paul02085

    paul02085 Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Fishing :)
    Location:
    USA
    Dont pay him any mind Suze, he just likes to yap.
     
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  16. Oct 14, 2005
  17. Bruce Hamilton

    Bruce Hamilton Dormant account

    Occupation:
    What's a job?
    Location:
    USA
    You must be seeing things... I've never asked you to prove anything. :D
     
  18. Oct 14, 2005
  19. suzecat

    suzecat Dormant account CAG MM webmeister

    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    California
    Paul, I believe you have something there. I don't want CM to get mad at me so I won't say anything further. :thumbsup:
     
  20. Oct 15, 2005
  21. papsnana

    papsnana Dormant account

    Occupation:
    nurse
    Location:
    pa
    fortune lounge BBs

    I got 4 of these 2 in casino acct and 100 to neteller so yea this places really rocks:lolup:
     
  22. Oct 15, 2005
  23. LANE13

    LANE13 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    na
    Location:
    Canada
    BB $50.00 TO NETELLER

    I got the e-mail from BB and followed the directions exactly, i received both
    the casinos 100% signup AND the $50.00 to my neteller account. I downloaded 2 casinos from the e-mail as instructed and got the $50.00 2 times , and both times the $50.00 went to my neteller account as promised.
    I think this was a great offer from BB and I had no trouble at all.
    :)
     
  24. Oct 15, 2005
  25. suzecat

    suzecat Dormant account CAG MM webmeister

    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    California
    Paps and Lane, you guys seem really lucky! Will you touch my hand?:)
     
  26. Oct 16, 2005
  27. caruso

    caruso Banned User - repetitive violations of 1.6 - troll

    Occupation:
    Casino apologist
    Location:
    England
    1) Affy sets up CPA (cost per acquisition) deal with casino.

    2) Affy gets deposits through affy link with a $50 cash incentive to players.

    3) Affy pockets $150 / $200 / $250 CPA payment, rebates players $50, ends up with $100 / $150 / $200 profit per player.

    Incentive to player: bucketloads of easy cash.

    Incentive to affy: bucketloads of bucketloads of easy cash.

    Incentive to casino: amongst the bucketloads of freebie hunters the acquisition of whom is costing them bucketloads of CPA payments, there may be swimming a big, fat, juicy whale who will end up losing...bucketloads.

    This is not something I'd have anything to do with, my personal opinion being that it's an affiliate ripoff trick. Of course, if the casino snags its whale then everyone's happy - but it's not rocket science to see how at best open to abuse, and at worst purely abusive, this technique is: the affiliate is manipulating the CPA deal by drawing in an obviously inflated number players that are there only for the $50 freebie, as opposed to a normally balanced number of freebie hunters mixed in with the "ordinary" players.

    The danger for the players is that the unwitting ones, those downloading in the normal course of events with no particular eye on $50 free cash, could find themselves at the mercy of an account carrying a barred affiliate's code. Like me, for example, in my Grand Virtual case (currently under review) in which I was denied a cashout on just that basis.

    Those players downloading in direct conspiracy with an affiliate obviously deserve everything they get - as does the affiliate.

    This case seems to fall between the two extremes. Either way, it's something to have your eyes open to and not get involved with.
     
  28. Oct 16, 2005
  29. suzecat

    suzecat Dormant account CAG MM webmeister

    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    California

    Caruso, your thoughts are really appreciated. I have been getting A LOT of flack over this (but I can take it LOL) but it seemed to be squirly and your impressions confirm that. Despite all the "encouragement" I am getting to "recoup" my loss by taking up the offer again at another FL casino, I have passed. Fool me once.............: ;)
     
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  30. Oct 17, 2005
  31. slotchik

    slotchik Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Marketing
    Location:
    USA
    First time poster running to the defense of BB's JUST like the other forums....wow..isnt that just canny?
     
  32. Oct 17, 2005
  33. davethom

    davethom Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Site Admin
    Location:
    California
    Hi There

    I am the owner of BB's Casino Connection.

    Several members of BB's have contacted me with news of this post regarding the promotion that we are currently running for our members, which offers anyone who opens a new "Real money" account at any one of the 9 Fortune Lounge casinos, and then makes at least one deposit, a CASH payment of $50. Sounds almost too good to be true, doesn't it?

    Well let me assure you all - this offer is 100% legitimate!

    BB's will pay anyone $50 CASH via NETeller, if all of the following are verified:
    - You have no previous or existing accounts at the casino.
    - You registered the new account through one of the links provided by BB's
    - You make at least one deposit in the new account. The minimum amount is $20.

    (If you do not have a NETeller account, you can still get in on this offer! We will have the casino deposit $50 CASH directly into your casino account. That is CASH - straight from BB's to you. There are NO terms and NO playthrough requirements on the $50. This can be verified by contacting the casino support staff.)

    Some people ask me how it is possible to offer this promotion, which obviously costs more money than it brings in... The answer is simple. BB's is paid a referral fee by a marketing company that advertises the Fortune Lounge group of nine (Viper) casinos. As an incentive for players to register their new Fortune Lounge casino accounts through BB's "referrer links" and banners, we have decided to refund a generous portion of the referral fee right back to the players who chose to sign up through our links and banners!

    That's it! It's quite simple actually!

    Thank you for taking the time to read this message.
     
  34. Oct 17, 2005
  35. cashroom

    cashroom Dormant account

    Location:
    HOUSE
    I never went for those things.

    I don't do those things and why would he do that really just give out money really. So you would get free $50 for depositing plus play your deposit and bonus too? Why would he do this he would lose so much money.
     
  36. Oct 17, 2005
  37. Heerlen

    Heerlen Banned User - violation of posting rules 1.8, 1.9

    Occupation:
    private
    Location:
    private
    I think it is a shame that Suzecat used this site as a venue to harm BB's Casino Connection and Fortune Lounge. She did get her $50 but it was put into her player account instead of her Neteller account. The situation was further clouded because she accepted a first deposit bonus which caused her to have wagering requirements, rather than be able to cash out the $50 and run, like she wanted to do.

    All she had to do was go to BB's Casino Connection forum and post in the thread they have there regarding the promotion to have it straightened out and/or decline the first deposit bonus. Instead she was impatient and played on all of the money and then was unhappy when she lost it all.

    I believe that this section of Casinomeister's site serves a very important function. It is the first place I look at before depositing. When people use it as a way to get back at someone for a minor error to or express losers' scorn, it makes me angry.
     
  38. Oct 17, 2005
  39. caruso

    caruso Banned User - repetitive violations of 1.6 - troll

    Occupation:
    Casino apologist
    Location:
    England
    The above post, nor the response from the affiliate a couple of posts above, addresses the fact that these are unethical affiliate tactices. The affiliate tells us the offer is genuine. Of course it is, it's simple mathematics: 150 - 50 = 100. Get five hundred of those and that's a nice annual score.

    If Fortune Lounge are happy with this, all well and good. But it sets a bad standard to operate by, because if less cash-rich casinos than Fortune Lounge end up on the receiving end of these CPA sleight-of-hands, it'll be bad news for the player in the end. Aside from the disadvantages of carrying a dodgy affiliate code, if the casino gets affy-raped it may lead to payment issues even beyond the dodgy affy code.

    Yes, the "deal" is genuine. However, as a player you would be a mug to get involved with this kind of thing or these kinds of affiliates.
     

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