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Hi my name is Kou187. Well obviously its not my name i was given at birth but its my online slot name and my name i used at JPP. Anyway i have been playing on the site for almost a year and i would have months were i would lose, And months were i would win. Anyway i would often moan on YouTube or the chat-box about losing so much like most people do. And i admitted to having a problem gambling on YouTube and they have now terminated my account for good with no chance of re opening it. I would have never admitted to having a problem if i knew they would terminate my account. But they have. Therefore i am absolutely gutted as JPP was pretty much the only place i would gamble every month after getting paid. I love the site and miss the banter with guys on there and the slots and winning progressives. Just sucks that i was stupid enough to admit my problem not thinking about the chance of them reading it and terminating my account. Do you guys have any advice of how to bet my account back or have any of you had any similar experience with JPP. Please let me know. Thanks


P.S after losing 1000's and winning 1000's on my last ever session on there i hit 3 stars on JPP progressive below is a screenshot and a video of the win. Ahhhh i miss that site.:(



big win.webp​
 
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er..if you have a problem why would want it re-opened?..seems they did you a favour
I think you'll be hard pressed to find members here who will help you in re-opening it when you're self-admittedly a problem gambler
 
JPP is a recommended accredited casino and one of the best in the business. They are committed to responsible gaming and took no chances when spotting your chat/youtube comments. This is excellent on their behalf. I'll tell you why.

Whether they like it or not, a great deal of casino revenue comes from problem gamblers. Problem gambler is another term for big-losing gambler or gambler in debt. JPP know that the nature of your problem means you will inevitably lose money elsewhere, but they are not willing to take that revenue from you. Again, that's called RESPONSIBLE GAMING from a site which means it.

By the time you read this you will be playing somewhere else and losing to that casino. Maybe they won't be as efficient in limiting the damage you are causing to yourself.

So, you should thank JPP.:)
 
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Bit weird if they've terminated your account from third party information as opposed to a direct request however. Oh hold on, it's their own You Tube channel? Right, I get it.

Someone needs to send him some lucky dust.

From a more helpful perspective, it does seem that the casino in question here have acted in your best interests. Good luck with everything else.
 
I commend Jackpot Party for closing you're account. Many casinos wouldn't unless they actually received an email from you requesting account closure. The casino has acted in you're best interests. Maybe you should request information on how long the account will remain closed?
 
dunover said:
JPP is a recommended accredited casino and one of the best in the business. They are committed to responsible gaming and took no chances when spotting your chat/youtube comments. This is excellent on their behalf. I'll tell you why.

Whether they like it or not, a great deal of casino revenue comes from problem gamblers. Problem gambler is another term for big-losing gambler or gambler in debt. JPP know that the nature of your problem means you will inevitably lose money elsewhere, but they are not willing to take that revenue from you. Again, that's called RESPONSIBLE GAMING from a site which means it.

By the time you read this you will be playing somewhere else and losing to that casino. Maybe they won't be as efficient in limiting the damage you are causing to yourself.

So, you should thank JPP.:)
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I said as much. Why don't you step back and have a think about things. Before it's too late.:(
 
Balthazar said:
Personally I don't think that they should have closed the account based on a Youtube comment.
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I can see some considering that a bit oppressive and maybe intrusive, but his ID was pretty unmistakable plus a problem gambler can hand JPP a few problems, aside from their moral obligations to responsible gambling. He might become a chargeback risk. He may be tempted (as by his own volition he will play dirty to keep playing at JPP) to open fraudulent duplicate accounts. He may get into serious debt or crime problems in the future (I sincerely hope not) to fund his habit, and JPP could be legitimately named as the destination of his money if he got into the press or his sob-story was later posted on the internet.

JPP are correctly protecting both parties. I don't car how they identified him, but I still say I welcome their action.
 
dunover said:
I can see some considering that a bit oppressive and maybe intrusive, but his ID was pretty unmistakable plus a problem gambler can hand JPP a few problems, aside from their moral obligations to responsible gambling. He might become a chargeback risk. He may be tempted (as by his own volition he will play dirty to keep playing at JPP) to open fraudulent duplicate accounts. He may get into serious debt or crime problems in the future (I sincerely hope not) to fund his habit, and JPP could be legitimately named as the destination of his money if he got into the press or his sob-story was later posted on the internet.

JPP are correctly protecting both parties. I don't car how they identified him, but I still say I welcome their action.
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What if he/she wasn't serious? People say a lot of crap in those Youtube comments, most of them are to take with a grain of salt. They could have contacted the player but to just go ahead and close the account based on this is uncalled for IMO.

I'm not saying this person doesn't have gambling issues, but the end doesn't always justify the means. Contacting the player would have been the right thing to do here.
 
@ kou187

Why did you destroy all evidences by deleting your Youtube account and your comments in the JPP videos? It sure doesn't help your case.
 
Balthazar said:
@ kou187

Why did you destroy all evidences by deleting your Youtube account and your comments in the JPP videos? It sure doesn't help your case.
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;);) QED
 
Balthazar said:
What if he/she wasn't serious? People say a lot of crap in those Youtube comments, most of them are to take with a grain of salt. They could have contacted the player but to just go ahead and close the account based on this is uncalled for IMO.

I'm not saying this person doesn't have gambling issues, but the end doesn't always justify the means. Contacting the player would have been the right thing to do here.
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Why? Few would admit honestly to the casino themselves via e-mail they had a problem - it's human nature; the OP would likely go on the defensive.
I still haven't seen one coherent or logical reason they haven't done the correct thing.
 
dunover said:
Why? Few would admit honestly to the casino themselves via e-mail they had a problem - it's human nature; the OP would likely go on the defensive.
I still haven't seen one coherent or logical reason they haven't done the correct thing.
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FFS, why do you always think that you should be protected against yourself? Aren't you a grown ass man? If you want to close your account, just ask for it. I don't know where this mentality of having to be protected agaisnt yourself comes from but not taking responsability for your actions is part of the problem, not the solution. I don't want 3rd parties to make decisions "for my own good" and neither should you.

Also, preemptive bans in case that you commit a chargeback when you have no history of doing so is absolutely ridiculous.
 
Balthazar said:
FFS, why do you always think that you should be protected against yourself? Aren't you a grown ass man? If you want to close your account, just ask for it. I don't know where this mentality of having to be protected agaisnt yourself comes from but not taking responsability for your actions is part of the problem, not the solution. I don't want 3rd parties to make decisions "for my own good" and neither should you.

Also, preemptive bans in case that you commit a chargeback when you have no history of doing so is absolutely ridiculous.
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I don't know why you're getting so het up. 'if you want to close your account just ask for it' :D What, like the drunk man, when out of his skull, will ask the barman 'please don't serve me any more'??

Hey, why not have anarchy? No laws, no common-sense, no rules and no responsibility.....

And I never said they had banned him pre-emptively in case of future chargebacks. I merely mentioned this in a list of other possibilities that may come into their consideration.


Above all, CHECK THE T&C's:

"WMS Rights to Terminate User Relationship. We further reserve the general right at any time, and at our sole and absolute discretion, to suspend or close your account without further explanation if we consider it necessary to do so for any reason. In the event that we terminate your account under this provision we will refund the balance of your account to you. The decision of our management as regards to any aspect of your account or use of this Site by you is final and not open to dispute or appeal."

He signed up to them. End of.:rolleyes:
 
Balthazar said:
What if he/she wasn't serious? People say a lot of crap in those YouTube comments, most of them are to take with a grain of salt. They could have contacted the player but to just go ahead and close the account based on this is uncalled for IMO.

I'm not saying this person doesn't have gambling issues, but the end doesn't always justify the means. Contacting the player would have been the right thing to do here.
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Thank you. Someone who understands were i am coming from. All i did was write a silly YouTube comment out of bitterness. Its not like i live in a box and have 18 grands worth of debt and no were to live. I'm coping absolutely fine with bills and rent and haven't gambled in months. If i was a true compulsive gambler i would lie cheat and steal to keep on gambling and that i do not do. I tried telling JPP this time and time again in chat and all they do is terminate the chat telling me they can not ever unterminate my account. So people should take my story and learn from it not to ever write anything suggesting you have a problem with gambling in the comments section else you might also get terminated. Its funny the max stake i ever go is like 3 pounds a spin, And im terminated yet people who do 20.00 and 30.00 a spin are still free to play on the site without any one ever questioning if they have problems.
 
kou187 said:
Thank you. Someone who understands were i am coming from. All i did was write a silly YouTube comment out of bitterness. Its not like i live in a box and have 18 grands worth of debt and no were to live. I'm coping absolutely fine with bills and rent and haven't gambled in months. If i was a true compulsive gambler i would lie cheat and steal to keep on gambling and that i do not do. I tried telling JPP this time and time again in chat and all they do is terminate the chat telling me they can not ever unterminate my account. So people should take my story and learn from it not to ever write anything suggesting you have a problem with gambling in the comments section else you might also get terminated. Its funny the max stake i ever go is like 3 pounds a spin, And im terminated yet people who do 20.00 and 30.00 a spin are still free to play on the site without any one ever questioning if they have problems.
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Crikey I can see why Nifty sometimes gets cynical on here.

Let's compare the post you've just made with your original post (below):

1. Right, you said a silly post. Below you state you would often moan on Youtube or their chat.
2. You say you haven't gambled in months. Yet your OP says you play there every month after you get paid. BS detector red
3. You say aren't compulsive yet state in the OP below I admitted to having a problem on youtube.
4. If you aren't compulsive why do you have a compulsion to repeatedly attempt via chat to reopen your JPP account?
5. If you were playing sometimes on £3 stakes you would have been depositing a fair wedge.
6. The people who bet 20 or 30 haven't let it slip they have issues or posted about taking losing badly.
7. IF you hadn't played there for months, why the sudden urgency to reopen account? Your would have gotten over your chat 'friends' by now.

The only thing you are annoyed about is that they spotted your admission. You've got one or two (minority) supportive responses off of members here and your story has changed significantly to feed off of this. This is why I have compared your last post to your OP. You're barred from JPP, they are within their rights to do it, there's nothing you or us can do about it. Move on my friend.

"Hi my name is Kou187. Well obviously its not my name i was given at birth but its my online slot name and my name i used at JPP. Anyway i have been playing on the site for almost a year and i would have months were i would lose, And months were i would win. Anyway i would often moan on YouTube or the chat-box about losing so much like most people do. And i admitted to having a problem gambling on YouTube and they have now terminated my account for good with no chance of re opening it. I would have never admitted to having a problem if i knew they would terminate my account. But they have. Therefore i am absolutely gutted as JPP was pretty much the only place i would gamble every month after getting paid. I love the site and miss the banter with guys on there and the slots and winning progressives. Just sucks that i was stupid enough to admit my problem not thinking about the chance of them reading it and terminating my account. Do you guys have any advice of how to bet my account back or have any of you had any similar experience with JPP. Please let me know. Thanks"
 
WOW! i knew this would happen it always does on forums. Why do you guys take it so personal. Right lets get this straight.

1: I havent gambled in months because i have been banned from jpp for months

2: I am not compulsive because i keep going in chat asking to be back. Just miss the site

3: Yes, I would make a comment on YouTube now and again maybe 3 or 4 comments in total that's all!

4 70% or higher have a problem gambling who gamble on the site

5 i was playing 3 stake now and then to meet wagering requirements faster as i had a big bankroll from deposit bonus

6 even if people spinning 20 and 30 pounds a spin haven't said anything it doesn't take a genius to figure out that's a ridiculous amount of money to be spinning even if there rich. Which i highly doubt

7 Because i miss playing on the site and the progressives and the slots and the big wins other sites bore me.


That is it i didn't join this site to get lectured i joined to meet nice people and share my issues not get told off and have essays wrote about how wrong i am.

Im not going back and fourth you can think what you like. They shouldn't have terminated my account over exaggerated YouTube comments.

(Awaits Long ass reply saying how wrong i am again..............):(
 
kou187 said:
WOW! i knew this would happen it always does on forums. Why do you guys take it so personal. Right lets get this straight.

1: I havent gambled in months because i have been banned from jpp for months

2: I am not compulsive because i keep going in chat asking to be back. Just miss the site

3: Yes, I would make a comment on YouTube now and again maybe 3 or 4 comments in total that's all!

4 70% or higher have a problem gambling who gamble on the site

5 i was playing 3 stake now and then to meet wagering requirements faster as i had a big bankroll from deposit bonus

6 even if people spinning 20 and 30 pounds a spin haven't said anything it doesn't take a genius to figure out that's a ridiculous amount of money to be spinning even if there rich. Which i highly doubt

7 Because i miss playing on the site and the progressives and the slots and the big wins other sites bore me.


That is it i didn't join this site to get lectured i joined to meet nice people and share my issues not get told off and have essays wrote about how wrong i am.

Im not going back and fourth you can think what you like. They shouldn't have terminated my account over exaggerated YouTube comments.

(Awaits Long ass reply saying how wrong i am again..............):(
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Re. your no.4 above - how on earth can you know 70% of JPP patrons have problems?

6. Ridiculous to you maybe. And me to tell the truth. But that's assumption again.

You obviously don't take argument well. Someone who agrees with you is not necessarily 'nice' and vice-versa. there are no essays, just considered comments and opinions. Most people think you are wrong. You have come on here, a forum with many experienced casino players, and made an OP that you expected, given your hurt feelings over the way JPP have acted, to garner sympathy for your point of view. On any forum you will get supporters and detractors.

"They shouldn't have terminated my account over exaggerated YouTube comments."

How would they know the comments are 'exaggerated'? They can only see what you've typed; they can't play guessing games.

And I reiterate their T&C's:

"WMS Rights to Terminate User Relationship. We further reserve the general right at any time, and at our sole and absolute discretion, to suspend or close your account without further explanation if we consider it necessary to do so for any reason. In the event that we terminate your account under this provision we will refund the balance of your account to you. The decision of our management as regards to any aspect of your account or use of this Site by you is final and not open to dispute or appeal."

Read the final sentence. Then you may realize why you will get nowhere with your futile efforts on their live chat.
 
kou187 said:
WOW! i knew this would happen it always does on forums. Why do you guys take it so personal. Right lets get this straight.

1: I havent gambled in months because i have been banned from jpp for months

2: I am not compulsive because i keep going in chat asking to be back. Just miss the site

3: Yes, I would make a comment on YouTube now and again maybe 3 or 4 comments in total that's all!

4 70% or higher have a problem gambling who gamble on the site

5 i was playing 3 stake now and then to meet wagering requirements faster as i had a big bankroll from deposit bonus

6 even if people spinning 20 and 30 pounds a spin haven't said anything it doesn't take a genius to figure out that's a ridiculous amount of money to be spinning even if there rich. Which i highly doubt

7 Because i miss playing on the site and the progressives and the slots and the big wins other sites bore me.


That is it i didn't join this site to get lectured i joined to meet nice people and share my issues not get told off and have essays wrote about how wrong i am.

Im not going back and fourth you can think what you like. They shouldn't have terminated my account over exaggerated YouTube comments.

(Awaits Long ass reply saying how wrong i am again..............):(
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Solutions for future reference:

1. Start a blog. You can then delete all the dissenting posts.
2. Don't post on public message boards.

If it were allowed I would have just written "LOL" in response to your complaint, because its so ridiculous its not worth the time.

Get over it and move on. Nobody here can help you. Even a PAB cannot (and will not) insist a casino reopen your account.

Balthazar....the casino is protecting itself in this case, which it has a contractual (see terms) and ethical right....nay responsibility....to do when it becomes apparent a player MAY be a compulsive gambler. The casino doesn't need to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt, or at all in reality. It is abundantly clear from the OPs desperation and his decision to make a fuss about it all that he has a gambling problem of some description....in addition to the fact he admitted it on youtube.
 
Nifty29 said:
Balthazar....the casino is protecting itself in this case, which it has a contractual (see terms) and ethical right....nay responsibility....to do when it becomes apparent a player MAY be a compulsive gambler. The casino doesn't need to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt, or at all in reality. It is abundantly clear from the OPs desperation and his decision to make a fuss about it all that he has a gambling problem of some description....in addition to the fact he admitted it on youtube.
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From what we know, the decision to ban him was strictly based on the Youtube comment, which is wrong and I already explained why. If Youtube comments in general had any consequences, a lot of people would be in serious trouble.

The reason I got mad earlier in the thread is because people can't take care of themselves and are expecting others to do it for them. "He's got a gambling problem, so the casino must ban him without his consent". "He's got a drinking problem, so he must be banned from the bar". This isn't a solution at all. If there's a problem, the person with the problem must be the one to solve it and not rely on others. It's true with gambling and all spheres of life.

Banning the OP didn't solve the OP's problem, as evidenced earlier in the thread.

Too many people don't take responsability for their actions anymore, I'm a grown man and I sure don't expect casinos to ban me for my own good. If I believe that I've a gambling problem, I'll stop playing and if I need help to do it, I'll ask for help. That's how problems are solved.

As for the casino protecting itself, it's just some pre-emptive bullshit: the same as being called guilty before committing a crime. (And I'm not saying they don't have the right to ban him, as they can ban anyone for any reason. That doesn't make it right in my book, though).
 
Nifty29 said:
Solutions for future reference:

1. Start a blog. You can then delete all the dissenting posts.
2. Don't post on public message boards.

If it were allowed I would have just written "LOL" in response to your complaint, because its so ridiculous its not worth the time.

Get over it and move on. Nobody here can help you. Even a PAB cannot (and will not) insist a casino reopen your account.

Balthazar....the casino is protecting itself in this case, which it has a contractual (see terms) and ethical right....nay responsibility....to do when it becomes apparent a player MAY be a compulsive gambler. The casino doesn't need to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt, or at all in reality. It is abundantly clear from the OPs desperation and his decision to make a fuss about it all that he has a gambling problem of some description....in addition to the fact he admitted it on youtube.
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Whatever im not gong back and forth they made the wrong decision deleting my account from YouTube comments. Thats my opinion. I never came on the site for sympathy just simply to share this info with people as i knew they would be interested in knowing this information.
 
You say you havent gambled in months and financially you are fine... However problem gamblers do not tell the truth always.

1 thing problem gamblers usually have happen is after a loss (perhaps after chasing), they are upset/annoyed/angry and will not give a damn about anything. Often the anger is at the casino and even blame is given to the casino (such as if someone said to them "im a problem gambler, how the hell could you allow me to play?").

Then once the loss is forgotten a few days or weeks later, the problem gambler will be back on the gambling like they dont have a problem (until the cycle repeats itself).

JPP are a great place to play and its good they picked up on this. Many casinos will ignore problem gambling, some of the rouger outfits may even try to lure someone to gamble who has a problem.

While I cant agree that 70% having a gambling problem I would say there are some gamblers who do have a problem but havent realised it. Seems to be only when they hit rock bottom that they think "hang on, I have a problem".
 
I've been debating whether to post in this thread or not, but WMS slots are available at other casinos other than Jackpot Party, but without the progressive aspect. Many members enjoy the higher payback without jackpot contributions.

If you like the social aspect of chat, 3Dice is a good casino with a chatroom, and offers numerous free tournaments, with more for depositing players, but with daily freerolls as well for non-depositors. Very different from WMS slots, but if you miss the social aspect of chat, might be worth checking out. They offer easy to use deposit limits to keep you within your gambling budget. Game selection is way more limited, but the games are unique, and payouts are prompt.

If you've had a break from gambling for a few months and don't come in trying to chase past losses, you might have fun. But be aware that most responsible casinos take responsible gambling seriously.

It's a pretty slippery slope, and I've had problems in the past myself at land based, and occasionally step back from online as well.

If you deposit ready to lose and be cheerful about it, about as cheerful as watching a bad movie, with the odd cashout, it can be a fun pasttime. But it can also be a frustrating and consuming addiction, and you know best if you want to venture back in.

After many many years gambling, one thing I can guarantee is it's not a way to make money.
 
Jasminebed said:
be aware that most responsible casinos take responsible gambling seriously.
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Indeed most but not all.

Shame UK bookmakers dont take it half as seriously.

Some guy who works as 1 of the top guns of the betting industry said in a quite recent interview "1 problem gambler is 1 too many" and went on to say they do everything to prevent problem gamblers from playing.

Their self exclusion system is highly flawed however. They self exclude you for a requested amount of time if you fill in the forms and give in passport sized photos of yourself.

It gets put in a folder and forgotten about. Countless times self excluders have walked into a bookies and gambled without staff saying a word.

Certainly its all BS with their self exclude policy. Folders are never checked and new staff are never trained about whos self excluded.
 
Jasminebed said:
I've been debating whether to post in this thread or not, but WMS slots are available at other casinos other than Jackpot Party, but without the progressive aspect. Many members enjoy the higher payback without jackpot contributions.

If you like the social aspect of chat, 3Dice is a good casino with a chatroom, and offers numerous free tournaments, with more for depositing players, but with daily freerolls as well for non-depositors. Very different from WMS slots, but if you miss the social aspect of chat, might be worth checking out. They offer easy to use deposit limits to keep you within your gambling budget. Game selection is way more limited, but the games are unique, and payouts are prompt.

If you've had a break from gambling for a few months and don't come in trying to chase past losses, you might have fun. But be aware that most responsible casinos take responsible gambling seriously.

It's a pretty slippery slope, and I've had problems in the past myself at land based, and occasionally step back from online as well.

If you deposit ready to lose and be cheerful about it, about as cheerful as watching a bad movie, with the odd cashout, it can be a fun pasttime. But it can also be a frustrating and consuming addiction, and you know best if you want to venture back in.

After many many years gambling, one thing I can guarantee is it's not a way to make money.
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Thanks mate for the advice. And i have gotten over not being able to play at jpp as there slots are now available on Nordic bet and maria bingo. So ive been playing bruce lee on there depositing say 40 to 60 and withdrawing at least 120 or 200 each time. Im happy with the way bruce lee plays on there because of the rtp being bigger. You see the features a lot more except the wins arnt as huge as jpp but are still decent wins. Biggest win i had so far was 150.00 of 60p spin on the 5 free spins bonus. I look forward to hitting the 20 free spins on there soon and seeing what thats like with the higher rtp. Thanks for the reply buddy;)
 

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