Originally Posted by
funeral979
Amazingly enough....Jackpot Capital didn't want my business either. Unfortunately I was able to make a deposit and lose first. Then I tried to make a second deposit a few weeks later and was not allowed to log in. I got the same BS that you did. My details were flagged. I asked why my details were ok to play at every other casino online. Just got some crap about risk filters. Whatever.
Could be some kind of clandestine blacklist being shared between SOME casinos. This could EASILY take 30 seconds or less to match against the registration details given and come up with a "risk profile".
It would be simply a matter of "on the list - no account for you". No need for any kind of further investigation.
Outside of fraud, this could be an "advantage player" driven list, where casinos share information on players who's playing strategy makes them "negative value". We already have BetPhoenix on record admitting that players are ejected simply because they are deemed "negative value" based on a variety of factors.
I cannot see how the data provided upon registration at an RTG casino can be used for anything other than a check for multiple accounts in the first 30 seconds. Other checks would involve getting independent data, and outside of a pre-loaded blacklist (or confirmation of a multiple account issue), this cannot be achieved within 30 seconds to a degree of confidence that has the casino saying it is "100% reliable".
Multiple accounts have been ruled out in this case, so it seems down to some kind of "risk list" where your registration details match those of a listed "bad player" somewhere within the RTG network.
If you have recently moved house, it could be the ADDRESS that is on the blacklist, because of the actions of the previous occupant. Casinos seem to have problems accepting that players DO move house, and that risk factors tied to addresses are NOT "100% accurate".
They should at least have invited you to submit documents up front to double check their systems, to ensure that the initial locking was based on legitimate data. Instead, they decided to ditch the opportunity of having you as a customer, as well as have you go away with a negative attitude towards this operator.
Despite what operators claim, I believe these player blacklists DO exist, and are used to weed out not just the fraudsters, but the advantage players deemed "negative value". The most blatant example of this has been the Rival central player rating system, where it has been ADMITTED that it is about weeding out the "bonus seekers" so that they don't get so many bonuses at what we are lead to believe are completely INDEPENDENT Rival powered casinos. I have never believed that operators would be HELPING their direct competitors in this manner, so suspected what later emerged, which was that ALL these "independent" Rival casinos were a sham, all owned and operated by Rival themselves, but MARKETED by their white label "partners", who were really just glorified affiliates.
There is also a level of clandestine connection between outwardly related RTG casinos, mostly members of the Virtual group, where it is in their interest to launch new brands distanced from the universal stigma of the Virtual brand in order to get players who read the rogue listings to chance playing there.
I don't think Jackpot Capital has ANYTHING to do with Virtual though, after all, JC pay their players, whereas Virtual only pay losers. Virtual would also have waited until you won before pulling this "risk flag" business, rather than pre-vetting accounts before the first deposit.
The main problem with this system is the total lack of a right to appeal the findings of this 30 second check, since it is deemed 100% accurate in weeding out the bad players. If it makes no mistakes, I would expect ALL players who make it past this check to have no further problems, nor have to provide documents, which is clearly NOT the case.
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