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    Is there not a Wager Works Rep on the forum who can explain why this happened and if they do this often?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lauriejim View Post
    Is there not a Wager Works Rep on the forum who can explain why this happened and if they do this often?

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    Wouldn't that be too easy?

    Brilliant idea, Laurie!

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    Quote Originally Posted by guesswest View Post
    The query is from 'WAGERWORKS UK LIMITED.' I assume it is a particular casino that requested it but I don't know which - am not sure why it originates from the network name and not theirs.
    Could it be Kerching? They like Wagerworks are IGT owned.


    Quote Originally Posted by guesswest View Post
    ...even if it doesn't impact my score I still have a gambling provider listed on my credit report.
    I recently applied for a mortgage in the UK. The mortgage broker advised me that one or two credit checks shouldn't hurt my score BUT if there were multiple credit checks in a short space of time it COULD hurt my score.

    Either way, a casino shouldn't be running a credit check without your express permission and stickining it in the T&C's simply isn't good enough. My credit rating would be decimated if they all did this. This definitely needs looking into.

    @GuessWest - Can I suggest you submit a PAB on this. It should be verified, discussed & investigated more thoroughly for sure.

    Please don't think I am suggesting you're not telling the truth, but the fact that Wagerworks of all people did this makes me think, or hope, there might be something else in play here. It seems a mighty odd thing to do for a company that on the whole run a very tight ship.


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    I agree - this has serious implications and needs to be further investigated as soon as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jetset View Post
    I agree - this has serious implications and needs to be further investigated as soon as possible.
    I heard Equifax is screening BC's new website so Wood and WW might be doing the same since there's a connection with him and Equifax. I have no clue if he's still there.

    Here's a quote from an old 2006 post on another forum.

    *Wood previously held a number of senior roles with Equifax Inc, EDS and Perot Systems, having personally contracted over $1billion of long-term annuity-based income for those companies. He is a published author and commentator on the use of technology and e-enablement in the online sector and has an extensive global network of board level relationships throughout the international marketplace.*

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    *London, England. (October 2006) - WagerWorks/IGT, the premier iGaming software supplier, today announced the appointment of Marc Wood as Managing Director of WagerWorks UK Ltd. Wood has over 20 years experience in developing international large scale technology services businesses, including Europe's largest independent online payment service processor, DataCash.*

    I agree with the OP that a credit check should never be done unless credit is involved and the player approves. I've never heard of an OC being allowed to give credit so don't understand why this happened.
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    I just dont see WHY they would even do a creditcheck?

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    Thanks for the feedback guys, but may have been a false alarm on my part. The query is on there, and looks like this:



    But having just read the FAQ, which I should have done before posting, I note this:

    Previous searches show the names of organisations that have seen some or all of the information recorded on your credit report within the past 12 months. Searches of your credit report should have been made with your consent. Most will relate to credit applications you have made but some may be routine checks by your lenders on accounts you already have. Unrecorded enquiries, quotations, identity verification checks and credit report applications are shown for you on your copy of your report but are not seen by lenders.
    So it looks like this should only be visible to me, and not to lenders. Sorry for being such an alarmist, I should have read through the report properly before I posted.

    FWIW I have been trying to think which casino this was. The query was in July, which is around about the time CM added the list of WW casinos, or at least when I noticed it, so I played at a few different ones around that time. However, I'm pretty sure you need a UK address to run a UK credit report. I live in Malta now so I used my Maltese address everywhere I played, with one exception, Mirror casino. They told me I should register with my UK address (which I maintain) despite living in Malta because I wanted to use a UK credit card - so I'm not 100% sure but my best guess is that they are the casino that initiated the check.
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    Simmo!: It seems a mighty odd thing to do for a company that on the whole run a very tight ship.
    Very odd..as I said also...
    Silcnlayc: There must be more to this than what we are hearing for no one initiates something such as this unless requested by another or applying for credit or a credit line. So let us know if you receive the answer. Here are the numbers and email to them.
    And so there is more to this than met the eye...As I said, this cannot be done arbitrarily without consent or knowledge unless it is to offer something or get something....
    guesswest: Sorry for being such an alarmist, I should have read through the report properly before I posted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guesswest View Post
    Thanks for the feedback guys, but may have been a false alarm on my part. The query is on there, and looks like this:



    But having just read the FAQ, which I should have done before posting, I note this:



    So it looks like this should only be visible to me, and not to lenders. Sorry for being such an alarmist, I should have read through the report properly before I posted.

    FWIW I have been trying to think which casino this was. The query was in July, which is around about the time CM added the list of WW casinos, or at least when I noticed it, so I played at a few different ones around that time. However, I'm pretty sure you need a UK address to run a UK credit report. I live in Malta now so I used my Maltese address everywhere I played, with one exception, Mirror casino. They told me I should register with my UK address (which I maintain) despite living in Malta because I wanted to use a UK credit card - so I'm not 100% sure but my best guess is that they are the casino that initiated the check.
    Ok maybe I am reading this wrong, but to me it doesn't matter if it's only visible to YOU or to ALL with access. To me the alarming thing is that an online casino (or group) would have any reason to run a check or inquiry or whatever.
    Or am I missing something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedAndi View Post
    Ok maybe I am reading this wrong, but to me it doesn't matter if it's only visible to YOU or to ALL with access. To me the alarming thing is that an online casino (or group) would have any reason to run a check or inquiry or whatever.
    Or am I missing something?
    It is still alarming and pretty uncool, but it's orders of magnitude better that it is invisible except to me and won't impact my rating (assuming I read the blurb right). I assume this is just to confirm ID and the possibility that they might do it was either in the t&cs or covered by some checkbox I skimmed, but I think if they're going to use this method of ID verification they really need to make it front and centre so you just can't miss that you're okaying it.

    If it is Mirror casino (not 100% sure on that) their casino standards are right on par with their journalism standards.
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