Locked Account at Royal Vegas & Vegas Towers

[GOCC]

Originally Posted by Casinomeister

Let's chill out for a bit, okay? You're making some bizarre analogies that don't make much sense. It seems that FL has let themselves become vulnerable to players that they don't want, and they have taken the initiative to ban these players. It's within their right to do so. The problem is specifically how to deal with these players' winnings.

If any player is going to complain in the forum, then they should PAB as well so we can get a sense on how much fraudulent activity occurred. I believe that there were accusations of multiple accounts, false ID etc. These players will be identified, and if they are members of this forum they will be booted.

Remember, this isn't a free-for-all ho-down. We're here to try and solve a problem or to set things straight. Analogies to crack heads, shooting people, and child rapists have no place here.

With the upmost respect to you Bryan, you do seem to be putting spin on it as being the players fault with the way the above post reads.

The email sent by codie to the player quite basically says, we didnt like the way you played so go away. You can have your deposit back. Will they be refunding all the deposits of the losers big initial bets

The FL rep says he is no longer participating in the forum. Is that the forum in general or just this thread. Just it seems to me to be a case of got caught with his trousers round his ankles and aint coming back.

Like I said, they have locked some of my accounts which I am not too bothered about. Just it seems like they want to control everyones spending. If a pub offers 3 budweiser for a fiver on a Tuesday night and on wednesday the one down the road does 4 for 6 quid, would the pub bar me on the following Tuesday. No, stupid to suggest isnt it. But this is exactly what this group are doing.

Why when you go to one of their websites then close the box, does a pop up appear advertising every bonus in the group??
We wont know coz the rep is having his ass spanked as we speak (Metaphorically )sic))

[casinocide]

Let's chill out for a bit, okay? You're making some bizarre analogies that don't make much sense.

Yea, you're probably right. When I read threads like this I can feel my blood start to boil, and I probably don't have all the info. Casinos have the right to protect themselves from fraud and that means confiscating winnings if fraud is discovered.

The analogies may be bizzare here, as I stated I have personally never had a problem with FL, but they are highly applicable elsewhere in situations that I have experienced that closesly resemble the accounts of players in this thread. It sounds like FL is way overreacting and that they don't have a handle on the potential consequences of thier own actions.

I don't retract a thing I said either. If a player is legitimate and the casino chooses to steal thier money, then it is a free for all ho down in the most Texan sense of the phrase.

[Vesuvio]

The status of the account will not be reconsidered as playing 11609 number of hands on red at $1 a bet in a roulette game is highly unnatural and improbable for any bona fide player with intent to play with us in future. Similarly, placing all your money on one single bet is also highly unlikely for any serious gambler.

You have displayed the same behavior as several other players and it is amazingly co-incidental that ALL of you had the same game pattern. Was this perhaps posted on some forum or did you hear about this from someone else? A syndicate maybe ?

At least we can be grateful for Fortune Lounge for being blatant about what they're doing. If they'd been more experienced rogues they'd have remained vague and simply hinted at fraud (their rep's left long after the horse bolted). As it is there's no room for doubt.

re: the floor manager's comments - obviously it's reprehensible to confiscate funds on the basis of play patterns, but it's also interesting to observe the stupidity of the comments on the "amazing coincidence". Sure, these things are posted on some forums (just as winning roulette systems, slot systems and so on are posted), but if you think for a nanosecond or two why a large group of players starts playing that way you'd realise that it's simply because that's more or less the best way to play the bonus (if you want to win, as many players do ). It's not rocket science, any more than it was a stunning coincidence that in the old days people would play BJ, or then VP and so on.

[Casinomeister]

Originally Posted by GOCC

With the upmost respect to you Bryan, you do seem to be putting spin on it as being the players fault with the way the above post reads..

Sorry - no spin intended. I'm just trying not to use any subjective language. If that seems like spin, well what the hell.

As for the thread and chilling out, threads like this tend to spin into a pile of crap when people get all riled up. I am in the process of making some serious inquiries and comments concerning child rapists don't help.

By the way, all players with pending cash-ins who have had their accounts locked will receive a refund of their purchases. That's directly from the casino.

[lojo]

I've followed this thread and read every previous post by FortuneLounge. IMO it was wise of him to exit this fray.

If you have a dog in the hunt, PAB and trust the CM process. If you just want to vent, I'd don't think it's doing anyone any good. Just my opinion, but there is no new information coming out of many repeat contributors here, just opinions and inflammations. That is not leverage.

I'm new here, but trust me, I see the very real value of open, honest, and transparent Reps to this forum and would hate to see one disappear for good.

No sense to flame me, cuz homey don't play that. Post all ya want, it's really none of my business. All I'm saying is that it is probably in everyone's best interest to trust the process.

[winbig]

Originally Posted by Casinomeister

By the way, all players with pending cash-ins who have had their accounts locked will receive a refund of their purchases. That's directly from the casino.

Just curious, do you find that acceptable? Especially for those that have met the WR and followed the T&C to the letter, nor have multiple accounts, as well as having their ID documents in order, etc?

and lol @ lojo....Homey D. Clown rocks

[NextToYou]

Originally Posted by Casinomeister

By the way, all players with pending cash-ins who have had their accounts locked will receive a refund of their purchases. That's directly from the casino.

Sounds like a good business to me. Every other player who deposits, let´s say $50, loses his bet and therefore casino get´s $50 win. That other half, which happens to win, casino refunds their initial $50 deposits so casino loses nothing. Oh god, I want to be in this kind of a business too.

[Casinomeister]

Originally Posted by winbig

Just curious, do you find that acceptable? Especially for those that have met the WR and followed the T&C to the letter, nor have multiple accounts, as well as having their ID documents in order, etc?

and lol @ lojo....Homey D. Clown rocks

I think that getting their deposits back is a good first step.

[winbig]

Originally Posted by Casinomeister

I think that getting their deposits back is a good first step.

Cool beans....as long as it's not the final step.

[lojo]

Originally Posted by winbig

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and lol @ lojo....Homey D. Clown rocks