What is going on with Rival? Now Slotto cash

[clj7221]

Am I missing something here? has something changed with Rival casinos? I have been playing Slotto for over a year and never ever got such an outragious Multiplier. Multipliers insanely high and the new cashout rules in this promo is Casino greed.



Get a $25 bonus on your next deposit!
Deposit must be at least $25 to qualify. Maximum bonus amount: $$25.
40x bonus playthrough ($1000)
Playthrough is the amount that must be wagered (put at risk) before you may cashout.


Unless otherwise stated, 1 credit wagered in a game counts as 1 credit toward playthrough requirements. Play at the following games, and any variants, does not count towards playthrough requirements and winnings may be considered null and void: Roulette, Blackjack, Sicbo, RedDog, Baccarat, PaiGow, War, ThreeCard, LetItRide, Videopoker, Craps, DoubleUp, CaribStud, Slot Progressive.
1x minimum cashout
You may only cashout amounts greater than your deposit plus 1 times the bonus. For example, if you deposit $100 and receive a $100 bonus with a 1x cashout, you may cashout any amount greater than $200. Additional deposits, reversals, bonuses or comp point redemptions do not count towards this minimum cashout restriction.


The following games and any variants may have different table limits while this promotion is active: Roulette, Blackjack, Sicbo, RedDog, Baccarat, PaiGow, War, ThreeCard, LetItRide, Videopoker, Craps, DoubleUp, CaribStud, Slot Progressive
Your table limits may change while this promotion is active.


Valid from 2009-09-16 00:00:00 to 2012-09-16 23:59:59. Promotion may be expired by casino at any time.
The casino's general terms and conditions apply.

[KasinoKing]

Am I missing something here?

40x bonus playthrough ($1000)

You might be missing that it's bonus only x40 = (Deposit+Bonus)x20

This has gone up since last month, because when I checked all Rival casinos for SlotBeaters, Sloto'Cash was only (D+B)x15.
This is a very worrying trend - I already started a thread earlier this month about how Rival casinos seem to be losing the plot over bonuses.
That said, (D+B)x 20 isn't tooooo bad, but it is a shame to see Sloto of all people increasing their WR above what most MGs offer. This change will move them down from 4th to =7th best Rival sign-up bonus out of the 24 I list on my site.

KK

[chuchu59]

You are late.

Sloto did this to me more than half a year ago. The WRs were 20x but the bonus was not cashable. Other terms were the same including the 1x min cashout. I was disgusted but didnt really make a big fuss of it and have never played there since. I am down at this casino and had never cashed out from their monthly 100% promos which was 15x WR and where some other table games could be played.

[clj7221]

Another one this morning.

Get a $500 bonus on your next deposit!
Deposit must be at least $500 to qualify. Maximum bonus amount: $$500.
40x bonus playthrough ($20000)
Playthrough is the amount that must be wagered (put at risk) before you may cashout.


Unless otherwise stated, 1 credit wagered in a game counts as 1 credit toward playthrough requirements. Play at the following games, and any variants, does not count towards playthrough requirements and winnings may be considered null and void: Roulette, Blackjack, Sicbo, RedDog, Baccarat, PaiGow, War, ThreeCard, LetItRide, Videopoker, Craps, DoubleUp, CaribStud, Slot Progressive.
1x minimum cashout
You may only cashout amounts greater than your deposit plus 1 times the bonus. For example, if you deposit $100 and receive a $100 bonus with a 1x cashout, you may cashout any amount greater than $200. Additional deposits, reversals, bonuses or comp point redemptions do not count towards this minimum cashout restriction.


The following games and any variants may have different table limits while this promotion is active: Roulette, Blackjack, Sicbo, RedDog, Baccarat, PaiGow, War, ThreeCard, LetItRide, Videopoker, Craps, DoubleUp, CaribStud, Slot Progressive
Your table limits may change while this promotion is active.


Valid from 2009-09-16 00:00:00 to 2012-09-16 23:59:59. Promotion may be expired by casino at any time.
The casino's general terms and conditions apply.

You are late.

Sloto did this to me more than half a year ago. The WRs were 20x but the bonus was not cashable. Other terms were the same including the 1x min cashout. I was disgusted but didnt really make a big fuss of it and have never played there since. I am down at this casino and had never cashed out from their monthly 100% promos which was 15x WR and where some other table games could be played.

[clj7221]

Here is something Positive , Kendra from Simon says Casino removed the Bonus ban on me. I appreciate that Kendra Thank you. I also checked out the bonuses they offered me in my account and the multipliers are great!

[oldtrvlagt]

I saw that same bonus this morning.....even with $1000 to play with the chances of hitting the $20K playthrough are astronomical! I played with a 100% bonus this weekend...deposited $100 and received $100...I didn't get a bonus round past 5X my bet anywhere! It didn't matter if it was a $.40 bet or $1. They were TERRIBLE! So 20K...outrageous

[vinylweatherman]

This is a MIN cashout bonus. It is somewhat predatory to lure large deposits with this kind of promotion, since even if WR is met, the player may never be able to catch enough of an upswing in variance to reach 2x bonus for cashing out. Better to deposit small amounts, and this significantly increases the chance of catching an upswing, and being able to hang on to this upswing until WR has been completed.

I thought Rival casinos were worried about "advantage players", yet this kind of mathematically complicated bonus favours the advantage player, who WILL beat it given a few tries. It is the NON advantage player that will see the 100%, and not worry too much about the underlying complications, and so will make a single large deposit, rather than a smaller one.

Microgaming casinos use a standard 30x bonus for SLOTS, but these tend to be fully cashable bonuses, and other games are weighted, rather than banned (except in the case of the more generous welcome bonuses).

It is annoying, and somewhat predatory, that rather than use "plain speak" casinos always say:-

Play at the following games, and any variants, does not count towards playthrough requirements and winnings may be considered null and void: Roulette, Blackjack, Sicbo, RedDog, Baccarat, PaiGow, War, ThreeCard, LetItRide, Videopoker, Craps, DoubleUp, CaribStud, Slot Progressive.

Rather than :-

Only non-progressive slots may be played with this bonus, play on other games is prohibited, and winnings from play on prohibited games will be removed.

The problem with the former is that often a complaint results from a player playing a game that is not specifically listed, but the casino says it MEANT to list it, because in fact the casino MEANT it to be a purely slots only bonus, but failed to list every non-slot game in the list.

The latter is a far tighter definition of what games can be played because it is a list of ALLOWED games, rather than of DISALLOWED games.

If SlotoCash is now playing this "game" with bonuses and the central database, they will no longer stand above other Rivals as a place to play - they will just be another member of a mediocre pack of casinos.

[gambblex]

Outrageous promo?

CASINO greed?

Maybe I'm a retard but I clearly see 30xBONUS playtrough for Monday's promos at Sloto

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[clj7221]

I found from my experience that anything much higher then 20 multiplier is difficult to cash in. Perhaps your new at this because a 30 multiplier is nothing much to smile about. When I play I like to have a fair chance at cashing in. Also, this post was about the high multipliers slotto cash sent me this week. When your Multipliers start going in to the 40x and 50x 's then come back and tell us how much you enjoy them.

Outrageous promo?

CASINO greed?

Maybe I'm a retard but I clearly see 30xBONUS playtrough for Monday's promos at Sloto

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[gambblex]

It is usually called "Playtrough", it never has ben called "Multiplier"

I've never heard that one guy forced another to take the bonus

Mistaking casinos for charities seems to be common tning

x30 bonus=15 D+B ,no?

Is it OUTRAGEOUS?