Quote Originally Posted by poser View Post
They gave it to me now.

Why not do it immediately and avoid this thread ?? I don't know.

@ vinylweatherman:

Theoretically, you can turn every bonus into a +EV, even if the wagering req. are very high and the bonus very small. You just have to play more risky and more big...(for me, I better like the fun playing longer and maybe just have a little better chances to win instead of doing ALL what is possible to get best EV)
This is probably what scares the casinos. It is not the size, but the percentage of bonus to deposit that determines how easily it can be abusively played (to use the casino definition of the word, not mine).
In order for many +EV strategies to return a profit, you need access to many chances at the bonus. This might be what prompted the Cryptos to make the changes they have. Their bonuses are small, but are available each month. The reward system (bonus credited post wager) was an attempt to remove the leverage produced by "going for broke" with one big bet each month. Most at risk is the welcome bonus, and maybe they have changed this to a split £25 now and £25 after wagering, but someone didn't do their job and update the offer terms.
It actually makes little difference, one could bet £50 on one even money bet, and then grind the WR for the additional £25 while at the same time meeting the WR on the initial £25.
The William Hill model may be better at preventing "abusive" play with a pre-credited bonus, but the rate of reward for wagering has to be enough to convince players it is just as good a deal for recreational play.

Intercasino has a better model, both a monthly bonus of $110 (or $100 or $150), and regular events that reward further small deposits with wagering tasks throughout the month. All it takes is a lucky hit to produce a +EV even with the slots bonus, and lucky hits do happen, and when they don't the WR will cancel provided you make an interim deposit before claiming the next monthly (has to be on zero balance, or WR carries).

This might not last, they may reduce this too, and move to a reward only based scheme.