Stay Clear Of Shark/Club World Casino (RTG)

**swampwitch** · 11th June 2007, 01:20 AM

The most damning were posts by phinqster and skunx, admitting that they watched players who were winning, and deliberately knocked them off the connection to disrupt their "run".

And we are treating people like this with respect...WHY?????

**SKUNX** · 11th June 2007, 01:50 AM

Me and Phynqster have always done business in an honest manner sometimes being a manager/supervisor or sales rep whatever theres only so much we can do.

I have always tried to be honest and inform people like yourself of whats going on in the industry not everything is schemes and tricks like everything theres a dark side to it and we just want the people to know what it is.

You dont have to respect because honestly I couldnt care less .

**clubworld** · 11th June 2007, 01:52 AM

Just need to add at ths point that we have never deliberately logged anyone out and claimed it was due to connection problems, to spoil their fun.

As I read in another post on the forum regarding connection issues RTG casinos have been encountering, one player was logged into both Inetbet and ourselves at the same time and we were both down due to legitimate connectivity issues at the hosting facility.

There was nothing sinister going on and it was as annoying for us as well as the players that this was happening.

Thanks

Jason

**SKUNX** · 11th June 2007, 01:53 AM

I will back up Jason on this sometimes when the ( admin) in RTG goes down theres a good chance RTG had some problems so they are not the only casino with the issue.

**vinylweatherman** · 11th June 2007, 01:58 AM

Originally Posted by swampwitch

And we are treating people like this with respect...WHY?????

They are proving useful with their revelations, and this is why RTG are in an even deeper hole now.

As for true respect, the fact that they were prepared to act like this before, and now want to spill the beans, does not necessarily mean they have seen the error of their ways. Once we hear that RTG operators can do something, the next time someone comes along claiming they had such a bad run they felt cheated, we are less likely to think they were unlucky, but may start thinking about what the casino might have done to them.
Particularly, being knocked offline happens to all of us, and we tend to blame either a poor casino server, or poor ISP. Now that we have heard that RTG staff DELIBERATELY disconnect a player multiple times if they are on a winning streak, we cannot help thinking that multiple disconnects from an RTG might be "suspicious" rather than down to the internet.

With Shark, we know this is something they have done in the past, and no doubt will do again. ClubWorld is the oddity, although RTG, I find it hard to believe they are deliberately up to something, BUT they do have server problems, and this has been resulting in multiple disconnects. A couple of days ago I could not connect at all despite three attempts, the problem cleared a little later and I was able to donate $50.

**phynqster** · 11th June 2007, 01:58 AM

[QUOTE=vinylweatherman;165740]Recent posts by "insiders" has given some grounds for suspecting RTG software. The most damning were posts by phinqster and skunx, admitting that they watched players who were winning, and deliberately knocked them off the connection to disrupt their "run". Also, it was claimed that they could alter the number of decks on Blackjack so that if they were knocked offline while playing the game, they would come back on to a version where the number of decks had been increased.
The fact that RTG software allows this, makes it easy for this kind of allegation to be made, and sound like it has more than a grain of truth.

The thing is; Is this any different than playing in a B&M, when you go on a hot streak the pit boss starts talking to you, the cocktail waitress comes more often, they changes the cards, shuffle more often, change dealers, etc., etc.?

As for the original poster of this thread, he has sent me over 20 emails, claiming he was working with both NBC and ABC on an investigative report on casinos, and he would get the story squashed if I sent him the money he had lost at the casino I had used to work at. He also had the "investigater" and a "lawyer' contact me, through his email. I have to tell you, this guy is a funny guy, if he was not NUTS. Nice to see how everyone saw through this guy.

**lojo** · 11th June 2007, 02:00 AM

Originally Posted by swampwitch

And we are treating people like this with respect...WHY?????

I would rather be informed than run off the messenger. I think industry insights are one of the most valuable aspects of this forum.

**SKUNX** · 11th June 2007, 02:03 AM

All I have to add to this is ... no casino is a saint when you go onland do you think they feed you rum just because they like to see you drink their booze???
Every house wants to win.. NO matter what they say

**swampwitch** · 11th June 2007, 02:09 AM

Me and Phynqster have always done business in an honest manner sometimes being a manager/supervisor or sales rep whatever theres only so much we can do.

Mucking with the software to screw up an individual's run is not doing business in an honest manner. "I was only following orders." has never cut it, and never will.

I'll give you guys a modicum of credit for speaking out now, but the time to speak out was really as it was happening. Better late than never, though.

As for the original poster of this thread, he has sent me over 20 emails, claiming he was working with both NBC and ABC on an investigative report on casinos, and he would get the story squashed if I sent him the money he had lost at the casino I had used to work at. He also had the "investigater" and a "lawyer' contact me, through his email. I have to tell you, this guy is a funny guy, if he was not NUTS. Nice to see how everyone saw through this guy.

If I were you, I'd change my email addy. This guy is sounding a trifle pre-postal.

With Shark, we know this is something they have done in the past, and no doubt will do again. ClubWorld is the oddity, although RTG, I find it hard to believe they are deliberately up to something, BUT they do have server problems, and this has been resulting in multiple disconnects. A couple of days ago I could not connect at all despite three attempts, the problem cleared a little later and I was able to donate $50.

Beats tithing!

**dd99** · 11th June 2007, 12:06 PM

I can't quite understand the idea of "disconnecting a player on a winning streak". What does that do, screw up his mojo ? Put a hex on him ? Why not just use voodoo dolls ?

I know a pit boss who says his colleagues would stand on one leg, rush off and change ties, etc etc if a player was winning. And I'm sure it worked in - say - just over 50% of cases ?...

Unless you change the odds (such as by adding more decks...) disconnecting a player will not change anything - if anything, since all games have a house edge, if the player stops playing it just costs the casino money...

D.