wofacai bonus issue: Pontoon = Blackjack Game?

[spearmaster]

Wrong again Spearmaster. Novice players have lined up in a conga line to snare the Centrebet bonus that ALLOWS Pontoon as it is NOT considered a form of BJ.

Who says Pontoon is NOT a form of BJ? Certainly Centrebet does not say that - if they pay the winnings that's their prerogative.

I can post more and more - how many do you want me to put up?

Post up as many as you like - because none of them are right.

Just about every definition of Pontoon talks about its relationship to Blackjack - and I don't think you can equate the payment of winnings based on pontoon to a statement saying pontoon is NOT a form of blackjack.

[spearmaster]

I will do that, I am just trying to work out what kind of PAB it is.

I am not getting straight answers from the casino. The question is are they just screwing me, or are they giving false documents, or is it a mistake.

I sent them my ID, and I honestly cannot understand how they can use that as backing for any allegations, which they are making.

Uungy - Just send a "general" PAB, pick whatever you like LOL - Bryan just needs to get his hands on the information.

I don't believe they are trying to screw you - I believe it's more likely a big mistake has been made.

[uungy]

Another problem is, I dont know my casino account number, have they changed it or not

I am so confused, I want this part sorted forst, but if you still advise to PAB I'll do it.

Was just thinking, if its a mistake, Bryan has the info here to continue, but I dont want to PAB wihout knowing where I am standing, as I am confused myself

[Casinomeister]

Hi uungy,

Just fill out the form here:
http://www.casinomeister.com/problems.php

If you can't remember your account number, no worries, I'm sure they have it at hand. There's a seven hour time difference, but I'll try to get the info as soon as possible. Hopefully it's a mistake on the casino's part and nothing to do with Tristan's problem.

[uungy]

I have my account number, its just that they have BS'd me around, I am not sure which is mine, the first por last

Anyway thankls for helping, I will be sending it in a few moments

[uungy]

OK, job done, thanks for your time

[henryVIII]

Please read the thread thoroughly - I stated that the terms and conditions for the bonus clearly state NO PONTOON. And this is archived at least back to February.
http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...tml#post160547

But this is only a red herring. The games were never an issue. The issue was that his account was locked. Read his initial post. That was his complaint - his PAB was more or less identical. His account was locked when they discovered that he had in fact two accounts. They have sent me documents to back this up.

Totally accept that about tristan.

But, surely, the fact that quite a few posters here who are fairly experienced on casino games would not think pontoon is a form of BJ is proof enough that their terms were inadequate.

If we are discussing this, then God help a novice stumbling onto those terms.

If casinos are sloppy in drawing up their terms then they should accept responsibility.

That many (most?) dont but use errors/confusion to their advantage is why most people quite rightly just dont feel comfortable doing business with online casinos.

But, hey, I dont think Brazillians are a type of American but of course, quite literally, they certainly are.

[Da_Gambla]

If casinos are sloppy in drawing up their terms then they should accept responsibility.

Totally agreed.. but how do you feel about a player who actively seeks out some fine print ommission purely to exploit it? I'm sorry Henry, that's too close to stealing in my book. The issue ended up double accounts, but clearly this guy was hunting for a casino that had a weakness to exploit.

He knew they would call bonus abuse or whatever when he cashed out. He KNEW it for a fact, and waited for it. When it happened, he acted astonished! Came to the meister to make it good! It was a scam when it started, it was a scam when it ended. Integrity dictates that a player who scams should be held accountable the same way we hold casinos accountable.

- Keith

[phynqster]

This has been an interesting thread. It has shown me that not all players believe that it is an "us vs them" when it comes to casinos and players. I like that when Bryan and Spear come out favoring a casino they are frowned upon. The reason I like this forum is for mod's like Bryan and Spear who are not afraid to piss off a lot of there bread and butter readers and posyers. I just want to publically give you guys a big thumbs up for not/never taking the easyway out.

[Casinomeister]

...But, surely, the fact that quite a few posters here who are fairly experienced on casino games would not think pontoon is a form of BJ is proof enough that their terms were inadequate...

Sorry, but I don't buy this. The only players who would disagree that pontoon is a form of Black Jack are either a) denying this fact because it doesn't fit into an agreeable circumstance for them or b) they need to learn how to read.

If Hoyle considers Pontoon a form of Blackjack, then that's good enough for me. And if you don't know who Edmund Hoyle is, I'd suggest investing some time studying the games you're playing. Every player (and operator for that matter) should have a copy of "Hoyle's Encyclopedia of Card Games" and "According to Hoyle: Official Rules" on his or her bookshelves. Mine are to the right of my monitor.

These books, by the way, are available at the "Meister's Mall"

All of the authoritative voices concur with this notion - so there should be no doubt where Pontoon stands.

As for the terms sloppily written. I don't know about that. The game "Pontoon" was listed as a disallowed game at least back in February. What's the issue about that?